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Author Topic: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?  (Read 1987 times)

peterwarm

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SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« on: October 19, 2021, 05:14:09 PM »

I'm doing some Wh/mile tests on my SR/F before fitting a fairing. I'm following suggestions on this forum to use the cruise control but find the cruise control switch maddening.
I've already fitted the extension lever to bring the cruise button nearer the throttle, but the bike is so powerful its almost impossible to keep the speed steady whilst moving my thumb onto the cruise control.

So I'm proposing to swap the cruise and the hazard switches over behind the headlamp, so the cruise is on the other handlbar (like normal bikes!)

I'm pretty sure both are simple press to close switches.

Am I lurching towards disaster?  any comments welcome.
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2021, 05:30:02 PM »

Lurching's the word... I don't know how you can stand the cruise control function on the SR/F, it constantly speeds up and slows down just enough to make me feel reaaaaally uncomfortable.
Otherwise though it seems like an eminently sensible idea.

Cas :)
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2021, 05:37:46 PM »

I've never felt the need for cruise control on a bike. The whole concept seems dangerous and pointless. However, when I got my SR/F I had to try it I found exactly the same problem you did. It's impossible to press the button without holding the throttle awkwardly and lurching as you do so. I just won't be using it anyway so it's not a problem for me. Weird how Zero didn't realise this though. A can see how this bug might have crept into development, but do they not test these features in the real world?
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2021, 01:15:41 AM »

It's a pain.  I 3D printed an extension as well, and that's a little better, but it's still hard to hold the throttle still.  It beats the "cruise control" on my '79 Yamaha XS-360 though, it was basically a clamp on the throttle with a quick release.  Talk about safety!

I'm so spoiled with radar assisted cruise on my car now that I really don't like "static" cruise any more (too used to dynamic).

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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2021, 12:09:21 PM »

I see no reason why Zero would use anything other than a 2 wire naturally open momentary switch. See if you can find a photo online or pop yours open.

There is not a lot of real estate on the left side of the bars to add an extra easily accessible switch. A few Energica owners have come up with some creative solutions for repositioning their cc activation buttons.

Alternatively you could look into something like this.http://www.autoswitch.com/index.php
 





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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2021, 02:46:20 PM »

Peter,

I posted the same suggestion a year ago when I got my SR/S.  Do you plan to swap the wires at the handlebar or trace the leads to their control unit(s) and swap them there?
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2021, 04:19:08 PM »

The latter idea seems eminently more sensible.

Cas :)
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2021, 12:11:37 AM »

Agree with wiring back at controller.
Anyone Got a wiring diagram to find wires in Bike Computer?
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2021, 08:16:58 AM »

I agree it's a PITA to activate cruise control on a SR/F or SR/S. Apart from the suggestion to do that from a switch on the left handlebar, it would also be great to repurpose the MODE switch to:

quick push to the left: -1 kph or mph
quick push: use current speed as set speed
quick push to the right: +1 kph or mph

while cruise control is active. That would make it possible to finetune the set speed while cruise control is already active. The quick push would be helpful if you're going some 50 kph within city limits and then accelerate to 80 kph on a county road. As of now you'd have to cancel cruise control and then re-activate it once you're at the correct speed. With the change you could simply accelerate to whatever speed you want to go and then push one button to lock it in.

Obviously that can't be done with just a little bit of rewiring, it would require a firmware upgrade.
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2021, 05:31:18 PM »

On the SR/S the wires all come together behind the display.
From testing for continuity I got the CC coming on the left side as blue/white+black, and the horn on the right side as orange+black.

I assume I can just cut those two wires and reconnect them the other way around to switch the buttons.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2021, 05:35:11 PM by Uram »
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2021, 06:56:13 PM »

Not sure why you would swap with the horn.
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2021, 11:22:31 PM »

Yeah, you want to swap it with the hazard light button.

Cas :)
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2021, 01:28:42 AM »

Isn't the hazard the same as Energicas where you push and hold the indicator switch? That would be done through software and not such an easy thing to swap.
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2021, 05:04:10 AM »

No, there's a little button at the front underside of the LHS switchgear (which I only discovered by accident when I was trying to rotate it around the handlebars).

Cas :)
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Re: SR/F swap cruise and hazards switches?
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2021, 08:51:42 PM »

These are the buttons on the handlebars for the SR/S.
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