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Author Topic: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19  (Read 2515 times)

Crissa

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Re: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2021, 04:47:37 AM »

You're not typical, Richard.

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Richard230

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Re: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2021, 06:10:26 AM »

You're not typical, Richard.

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Well, the older I get the more typical I become.  ::)
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DonTom

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Re: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2021, 06:47:09 AM »

Should also probably take a big spoonful of realism and think about the last time you saw a bike with more than 30,000 miles on the clock still being ridden.

Cas :)
How about ten times that, 300,000 miles?  I bought my 1971 BMW new, $1,845.00. May 1971. Used the money I could not spend in the jungles of Vietnam.


Here is its lic plate: (says Vietnam-Infantry to those who have been in the army):






It was the only vehicle I had for many years, rain or shine. It has been to every state in the west from here to Texas.


It now runs BETTER than it did when new. Has some performance mods. Electronic ignition, dual plugs per cylinder, Mikuni Carbs so I cannot say it's in original condition.


I normally keep all my vehicles until they need to be junked. I never sell any. I only junk them. But that old BMW will probably never become junk. Still easy to get parts for and such in one way or another.


-Don-  Cold Springs Valley, NV
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Re: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2021, 03:24:08 AM »

Should also probably take a big spoonful of realism and think about the last time you saw a bike with more than 30,000 miles on the clock still being ridden.

Cas :)

I bought my SR/F with 3'700 km and started riding April 2020. Now I got ~28'500 km. I certainly hope the bike will run properly for some mor years ...
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Re: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19
« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2021, 03:45:42 AM »

So ... tonight I did a second approach:

I measured the energy, going into my SR/F after first time showing 100% SoC, but still charging.

Until the bike shut down on its own, 1.8 kWh went in.

I'd be interested, how much loss is to be expected just by AC/DC-conversion, and how much by balancing due to 'by burning off excess juice with resistance' (according to MVetter).

These two factors not taking into account it would mean, that, when my SR/F shows 100% SoC the first time, it actually only has
84% SoC - calculated with 11.6 kWh nominal capacity
86% SoC - calculated with 12.6 kWh nominal capacity.

That's pretty close to what I calculated with my first approach.

For the interested:
Up to the first time showing 100% SoC I charged 3 Phase 16 Amps 230V.
After that I changed to 1 Phase 16 Amps 230V (because my 'juice-o-meter' only works with 1 Phase).

What I still have to do, is, to stop charging the first time 100% SoC is on the display, and to look the next day, if the SoC is still the same.


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ESokoloff

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Re: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2021, 04:23:34 AM »

Should also probably take a big spoonful of realism and think about the last time you saw a bike with more than 30,000 miles on the clock still being ridden.

Cas :)
63k miles on my 2016 Zero DSR & 144k miles on my 2003 BMW RT1150
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Re: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2021, 05:03:22 AM »

It should probably be noted at this point that 450 people aren't going to pipe up on this forum and say "Only 2300 miles on my R1 here!"

Cas :)
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Re: SR/F Charging behaviour on FW19
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2021, 04:05:43 PM »


What I still have to do, is, to stop charging the first time 100% SoC is on the display, and to look the next day, if the SoC is still the same.

That is also done now:
I Charged until first time showing 100% SoC. Stopped charging and left the bike a night allone. This morning SoC showed 89%.
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