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Author Topic: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???  (Read 1729 times)

Eicas

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How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« on: May 28, 2021, 01:01:54 AM »

Eventually I am going to need to lift up my new SR/S for maintenance.  I do not have or want a centerstand.

Can I safely use a scissor lift under the bike to lift it?  Under the bike I see what looks like a heat sink that looks flat and might be strong enough to support the bike's weight.  Maybe a piece of wood between the lift and the "heat Sink" to keep from damaging it?

The scissor lift I have was built by Handy for Harleys and used to support my old but now sold BMW R100RS that also did not have working centerstand.

Any other ideas would be be greatly appreciated.
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2021, 01:13:33 AM »

Eventually I am going to need to lift up my new SR/S for maintenance.  I do not have or want a centerstand.

Can I safely use a scissor lift under the bike to lift it?  Under the bike I see what looks like a heat sink that looks flat and might be strong enough to support the bike's weight.  Maybe a piece of wood between the lift and the "heat Sink" to keep from damaging it?

The scissor lift I have was built by Handy for Harleys and used to support my old but now sold BMW R100RS that also did not have working centerstand.

Any other ideas would be be greatly appreciated.
Use one of these.


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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2021, 07:06:11 AM »

Thanks!  That is almost identical to what I have and wanted to use.  I was concerned that placing it under the bike and lifting could damage "something" on the bike if that part of the bike was not stressed for the load.  Could not find any specific lifting instructions in the on line owners manual.
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2021, 07:54:18 AM »

Thanks!  That is almost identical to what I have and wanted to use.  I was concerned that placing it under the bike and lifting could damage "something" on the bike if that part of the bike was not stressed for the load.  Could not find any specific lifting instructions in the on line owners manual.
I've used the Black Widow Lift to lift up my 2017 Zero SR with Power Tank (Heavy), to remove both wheels, but I just noticed "SR/S" in the subject line, so I don't know if it will work as well on that bike.


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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2021, 08:23:06 AM »

Yeah I don't know if the bellypan covering the controller is metal or plastic. If it's plastic I'd steer clear of the scissor jack. Might be time to pony up for some spools and a rear stand. For the front either an engine hoist (if you happen to have one) or get an actual motorcycle head lift.
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2021, 08:43:21 PM »

Zero warns against using such a lift on the SR/S! The heatsink and controller on the bottom cannot support the weight of the bike!
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2021, 09:08:19 PM »

Zero warns against using such a lift on the SR/S! The heatsink and controller on the bottom cannot support the weight of the bike!
I would go with the centerstand, if it were me,  especially since a lift cannot be used. That is something I wish all my bikes had, but especially on my Energica.


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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2021, 11:40:46 PM »

Thank you for all of the advice.  Does not sound like a good idea to lift my SR/S using a scissor jack. 

Guess I will have to rethink my opposition on having a center stand or see if I can adapt my old Pit Bull stands to work.

Did some more research and as near as I can tell a scissor jack would be pushing/lifting against the "CONTROLLER R SME WITH HEATSINK" which appears to be one finned unit and made out some aluminum alloy.

Have no idea what that part does but it sounds rather important to the operation of the bike!
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2021, 08:40:45 AM »

Thank you for all of the advice.  Does not sound like a good idea to lift my SR/S using a scissor jack. 

Guess I will have to rethink my opposition on having a center stand or see if I can adapt my old Pit Bull stands to work.

Did some more research and as near as I can tell a scissor jack would be pushing/lifting against the "CONTROLLER R SME WITH HEATSINK" which appears to be one finned unit and made out some aluminum alloy.

Have no idea what that part does but it sounds rather important to the operation of the bike!

There are 3 parts to any electric vehicle:

- The battery stores the power in DC format

- The controller, or inverter, takes DC power from the battery and converts it to AC for the motor. It also takes AC power from braking regen and converts it back to DC to recharge the battery.

- The motor takes power from the controller and converts it into mechanical force aka turning the wheel.

So yeah it's kinda important.
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2021, 05:14:11 PM »

I just use wheel stands, good for tire/wheel/belt work, but clearly not great for suspension (front + rear, one paddle and one fork)!  I also use them to get the tires off the ground when storing for the winter (in my basement).  Cheap and easy.

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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2021, 11:41:46 PM »

I just use wheel stands, good for tire/wheel/belt work, but clearly not great for suspension (front + rear, one paddle and one fork)!  I also use them to get the tires off the ground when storing for the winter (in my basement).  Cheap and easy.

Steve
Is there a safe way for one person to lift the bike up on one of those stands?  I have several stands that I have not even tried to use yet.


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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2021, 04:46:37 PM »

I was able to do it by myself with my DSR (rear first, then the front), but ask my wife to help with the SR/F, it's just a little to heavy to handle from the rear for me.  Once on the rear stand, getting the front one on is easy.

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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2021, 08:04:19 PM »

Here is a stand that will allow a single person to raise the rear of just about any bike securely and with ease. It is designed is such a way that it lifts a motorcycle evenly without tilting it. And the extra long handle provides plenty of leverage. The stand came with a couple of attachments, but if you have stand spools on your bike it will really get the job done with a real feeling of security. I have been using this stand for years and I don't think there is anything better on the market for a one-person lift. However, I don't know if it is still being made and available for sale. Attached are photos of the stand.
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2021, 10:28:16 PM »

Here is a stand that will allow a single person to raise the rear of just about any bike securely and with ease. It is designed is such a way that it lifts a motorcycle evenly without tilting it. And the extra long handle provides plenty of leverage. The stand came with a couple of attachments, but if you have stand spools on your bike it will really get the job done with a real feeling of security. I have been using this stand for years and I don't think there is anything better on the market for a one-person lift. However, I don't know if it is still being made and available for sale. Attached are photos of the stand.
Thanks for that info. I see some info about it here.


But perhaps they are no longer in business. I am surprised nobody else makes such a thing.


I will do some more web searching.  If I find anything, I will post about it here.


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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2021, 10:35:47 PM »

Looks like it's been discontinued. I have to wonder why.




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