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Flybuddy

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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2021, 01:56:32 AM »

Here's installation instructions and a video:
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2021, 02:44:16 AM »

Yes, thanks.  I have that.  It says "Perform the High Voltage Discharge Procedure as provided in the Service Manual to ensure that the motorcycle controller is fully discharged."

I don't have the service manual so I do not know what this entails.  Is the service manual available somewhere that describes this procedure?
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2021, 08:19:59 AM »

SOA,

The unofficial Zero manual (see below) is invaluable!  I'd read that through on any and all related topics before trying anything like this.

I was going to do the same but was told it would void the warranty on my bike, so...

https://zeromanual.com/wiki/De-Energize_Controller

-Scott
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2021, 06:32:42 PM »

SOA,

The unofficial Zero manual (see below) is invaluable!  I'd read that through on any and all related topics before trying anything like this.

I was going to do the same but was told it would void the warranty on my bike, so...

https://zeromanual.com/wiki/De-Energize_Controller

-Scott

Thank you!  I searched there many times but just didn’t use quite the right terms I guess. Thanks again.

I’m torn on the warranty voiding.  How long will the dealership have my bike if I have them do it?  Do they charge additional for the install or is it included in the price of the tank?

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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2021, 08:22:26 PM »

SOA,

The unofficial Zero manual (see below) is invaluable!  I'd read that through on any and all related topics before trying anything like this.

I was going to do the same but was told it would void the warranty on my bike, so...

https://zeromanual.com/wiki/De-Energize_Controller

-Scott

Thank you!  I searched there many times but just didn’t use quite the right terms I guess. Thanks again.

I’m torn on the warranty voiding.  How long will the dealership have my bike if I have them do it?  Do they charge additional for the install or is it included in the price of the tank?

I had noticed on the facebook video (which was a dealer install) that someone asked the "how long" question and the response was that they charged for 3 hours. Sounds possible to wait for it instead of leaving it.
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2021, 12:19:44 AM »

Well, my dealer did quote me a same day install, but was marking up the price of the charge tank and adding a decent fee for the install.  I don't fault them, they gotta make a buck.  But when I'm capable of doing it myself, and they are 2.5 hours away, saving the money and the time, energy, and expense of getting the bike there, starts to look really good.  So I ordered the tank from AF1 today.  And threw in a windshield with the money I'm saving.  :)

Wish me luck on the install!
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2021, 03:40:21 AM »

Let us know how long it takes from the time you order it from AF1 and when you receive it.

Also it would be awesome if you could document your install, or at least take pics to point out any tricky parts.

What year bike do you have? Will you have to remove the helmet lock?

Well, my dealer did quote me a same day install, but was marking up the price of the charge tank and adding a decent fee for the install.  I don't fault them, they gotta make a buck.  But when I'm capable of doing it myself, and they are 2.5 hours away, saving the money and the time, energy, and expense of getting the bike there, starts to look really good.  So I ordered the tank from AF1 today.  And threw in a windshield with the money I'm saving.  :)

Wish me luck on the install!
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2021, 07:01:53 AM »

My SR is a 2021. No helmet lock to remove.

I’ll see what I can do to document. I take advantage of so many other people’s work to document their processes but I really suck at doing it myself. I’ll manage something. Just might not be as well done as other stuff you’ve seen.  I do promise to put whatever I create somewhere other than Facebook, though. ;-)
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2021, 08:53:51 AM »

My SR is a 2021. No helmet lock to remove.

I’ll see what I can do to document. I take advantage of so many other people’s work to document their processes but I really suck at doing it myself. I’ll manage something. Just might not be as well done as other stuff you’ve seen.  I do promise to put whatever I create somewhere other than Facebook, though. ;-)
"A photo is worth a thousand words".


If possible, take photos of anything you consider to be tricky.


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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2021, 04:05:40 AM »

Any update on this?

My SR is a 2021. No helmet lock to remove.

I’ll see what I can do to document. I take advantage of so many other people’s work to document their processes but I really suck at doing it myself. I’ll manage something. Just might not be as well done as other stuff you’ve seen.  I do promise to put whatever I create somewhere other than Facebook, though. ;-)
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2021, 09:53:47 PM »

Had a charge tank installed on a 21 S at dealer last week. Discount I got on tank (due to purchasing bike there) covered most of install cost. Had an odd problem with it. Since I've got fairly aggressive handlebar risers which move bars both up and back, the disconnect button on some J1772 plugs won't allow the plug to lock on fully. I took the tank off today and put some bushings under the front of the charge receptacle to tip it back some which hopefully fixes the issue.
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2021, 12:53:27 AM »

...Since I've got fairly aggressive handlebar risers which move bars both up and back, the disconnect button on some J1772 plugs won't allow the plug to lock on fully...
Fox 2-in risers work but only just barely; have to loosen to take the tank on/off. There's alternate DIY inlet locations if you can't make that work.
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2021, 01:41:24 AM »

...Since I've got fairly aggressive handlebar risers which move bars both up and back, the disconnect button on some J1772 plugs won't allow the plug to lock on fully...
Fox 2-in risers work but only just barely; have to loosen to take the tank on/off. There's alternate DIY inlet locations if you can't make that work.

I took a ride to a chargepoint and it's got reasonable clearance now and worked fine. Curious as to what the alternate DIY locations are?
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Re: Charge tanks - dealer installed or can I DIY?
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2021, 06:29:01 AM »

...Since I've got fairly aggressive handlebar risers which move bars both up and back, the disconnect button on some J1772 plugs won't allow the plug to lock on fully...
Fox 2-in risers work but only just barely; have to loosen to take the tank on/off. There's alternate DIY inlet locations if you can't make that work.

I took a ride to a chargepoint and it's got reasonable clearance now and worked fine. Curious as to what the alternate DIY locations are?

https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=9764.msg104264#msg104264

Under the seat, above the motor
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