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Author Topic: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy  (Read 6748 times)

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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2021, 09:57:28 AM »

I wound up going with a different way to carry my charger. I wanted to leave my trunk free, keep the weight closer to the frame, and be able to quickly add / remove it from the bike. So I picked up two RAP-400NBU clamps from RAM Mounts, drilled two holes in mounting plate, and bolted the clamps to the bottom with some thread locker. Takes about 15 seconds to add or remove it.




I still need to figure out a better way for the cables, because I just keep them in a bag in the trunk and connect them up at every charging stop. I'm considering a more permanent installation of them on the bike. I'm thinking the J-1772 might be able to be mounted (mostly) in the front right fairing. Still pondering solutions.
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #76 on: June 10, 2021, 05:09:21 PM »

I had a bicycle toolbox and tried it and it just fits. Will try a larger box to provide space for more accessories/adapters and possibly adding 12v fans.
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #77 on: June 16, 2021, 03:21:37 AM »

Any update on the first group buy?

I think the fair way would be to go in order of who originally responded to this thread.

I'll work with Sayyed and StableOfZeros to aquire more in June.
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #78 on: June 16, 2021, 06:16:59 AM »

The first group buy was a resounding success. Three out of three of us are now charging via ElCons. I just spoke with Sayyed today, and received some good and bad news. The exact units we ordered the first time are ok back order for at least two months. We may be able to get the previous iteration for about the same price but I am waiting to hear back from Sayyed about specifics.

I have lost running count of who would still like one or more, I will put together a google form and post it here so I know who would like one!

Link to google form: https://forms.gle/WgtL1QUor4wduEqa9
« Last Edit: June 16, 2021, 07:22:19 AM by StableofZeros »
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2021, 01:50:53 AM »

What was the final plug configuration?  IOW how does it end up hooking up and working?
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2021, 02:05:20 AM »

What was the final plug configuration?  IOW how does it end up hooking up and working?
In reply number 60 here, it says:


"For the DC side,  they provided a 4 foot long adapter From the Anderson Gray connector on the charger to the Brown one the Zero has by the motor for $25. Apparently these were sourced from Zero."


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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2021, 05:00:28 PM »

I bought a slightly larger toolbox at Home Depot and customized it by:

Adding a 12v LED fan connected to the 12v output in the CANBUS connector to help the stock Elcon Fan. The LED lets me know the charger is on if I can not hear the stock fan.

Second I bolted the charger to the bottom of the box so it does not move around.

Finally, I cut some slots to let the wires leaving the Elcon go straight out of the box without kinks.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2021, 05:26:51 PM by josequinones »
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #82 on: June 17, 2021, 05:05:37 PM »

Correct, as Don quoted me, the charger comes with the following inputs:

AC - Elcon to a Sumitomo, then Sumitomo to a NEMA 5-15p plug.
DC - Elcon to Anderson "Gray", then Anderson "Gray" to Anderson "Brown" that plugs in to the brown connector above the motor. This last part is an extra $25.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2021, 05:09:05 PM by josequinones »
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #83 on: June 17, 2021, 08:26:20 PM »

Where does the hot air exit the box?

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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #84 on: June 17, 2021, 10:05:20 PM »

Where does the hot air exit the box?

-Crissa

The elcon fan blows down on the fins, hot air exits left/right, the blue fan blows out to help get hot air out of the box.  I keep the lid open for now I might try closing the lid to see how it works.
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2021, 01:43:49 AM »

Well, that's a convection mess ^-^

But yes, adding the exhaust fan should keep the intake fan from drawing dead air.

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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2021, 02:31:58 AM »

Well, that's a convection mess ^-^

But yes, adding the exhaust fan should keep the intake fan from drawing dead air.

-Crissa

Agreed but the Elcon fan blows down so the extra fan flow has to go with the flow if I flipped it to blow into the box the two flows would collide and go up which is worth trying with the lid open.
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2021, 04:32:25 AM »

Can Sayyed order one of the chargers as CAN-enabled for the next group buy?
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2021, 05:36:29 AM »

I’m sure we can ask them to, but it will probably be a while.
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #89 on: June 18, 2021, 08:12:29 AM »

Can Sayyed order one of the chargers as CAN-enabled for the next group buy?
I was asked if I wanted mine that way, I said no thanks. I prefer simple as possible. I couldn't care less if they shut off at ~95% SOC where the rate will drop a lot anyway, if that last 5% is even needed.


Why do you want yours controlled by CANBUS?  IIRC, you will need some type of Interface. No doubt MV can explain that part to you.


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