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[NEW2elec]

Travbee, it's really nice of you to work with the forum to get a group buy together.

I would want a lot more info on how this is set up and what is needed.
I would have some interest in one but I would want it to have the Andersen connector for the output so plug and play with the Zero.
Also some type of options for input, either J plug or Nema 14-50 or both.
I would assume a 3.3 kw charger would trip the breaker of any other US outlet if it pulls 32 Amps.  Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

[Crissa]

Yes, standard US outlets allow 15a or 20a.  And you really shouldn't max them out.

-Crissa

[staples]

I would assume a 3.3 kw charger would trip the breaker of any other US outlet if it pulls 32 Amps.  Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

The charger will not pull 32 amps of AC power. That number is the output on the DC side.

[Crissa]

The charger will not pull 32 amps of AC power. That number is the output on the DC side.

It'll pull about 16a at 240v, but US outlets are not generally 240v.

I don't know what it'll do if given half the voltage it wants, but I wouldn't try it.

-Crissa

[mryan]

I am fairly certain these chargers are half the power (1.7kw) at 120v and only 3.3kw at 220v, but confirmation from your source would be good.

See the attachment from elconchargers.com

https://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/9034090/10295140.htm

[Crissa]

That would be really handy.  You might be able to replace the onboard charger with a spec like that.

-Crissa

[DonTom]

I am fairly certain these chargers are half the power (1.7kw) at 120v and only 3.3kw at 220v, but confirmation from your source would be good.

See the attachment from elconchargers.com

https://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/9034090/10295140.htm

Yes, the Elcons even come stock with 120 VAC plugs. AFAIK, all EV chargers can accept any AC voltage for around 90 to 250 VAC.  I have never tried my Elcons out on 120 VAC, but I would expect them to work at half the DC power output.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[josequinones]

from Elcons spec sheet @ https://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/9034090/10295140.htm

Output Power 3300W @220vac or 1600W@110VAC

Which AC plug is included? A NEMA 5-20p, or the Sumitomo mentioned in other threads?

I am currently charging with the OBC @ 220v by plugging into an old dryer 10-30R receptacle with a Parkworld 886334 adapter (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078PHY3ZJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details). I could have made the adapter myself cheaper but I was hesitant to do so originally.

If I wanted to charge with both the 1300w OBC and one 3300w Elcon at 220 v at the same time I will need to buy/make a splitter to charge both from the same 30 amp max (24 amp continuous) circuit.

Draw: 15 amp Elcon + 6 amp OBC = 21 amps so I should be ok.

Finally, to charge with only the Elcon I need to keep the bike keyed on, plug it in and it will charge to 95%?

[staples]

I am fairly certain these chargers are half the power (1.7kw) at 120v and only 3.3kw at 220v, but confirmation from your source would be good.

See the attachment from elconchargers.com

https://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/9034090/10295140.htm

Yes, the Elcons even come stock with 120 VAC plugs. AFAIK, all EV chargers can accept any AC voltage for around 90 to 250 VAC.  I have never tried my Elcons out on 120 VAC, but I would expect them to work at half the DC power output.


-Don-  Reno, NV

I have used 120 with my charger, and it does charge at half power in that situation. The documentation is correct.

[NEW2elec]

Ok so it can take different AC voltage inputs and won't trip the breaker.  That's good.  So at "worst" it serves same as a Delta Q but for a bit more money.

Don I understand you have yours hooked up to your controller at the bike.  You say it comes with a US 110 plug.  Does that plug go into a C13 plug like the Delta Q charger or is it a permanent plug cord?
Also how do you hook up the J plugs either at your house or at stations?

[staples]

Ok so it can take different AC voltage inputs and won't trip the breaker.  That's good.  So at "worst" it serves same as a Delta Q but for a bit more money.

At "worst" it's still ~1.7kWh vs the DeltaQ which, I believe, is 1kWh.

Don I understand you have yours hooked up to your controller at the bike.  You say it comes with a US 110 plug.  Does that plug go into a C13 plug like the Delta Q charger or is it a permanent plug cord?

A standard  US 110 plug is a NEMA 5-15p. There is a sumitomo (?) connection in line, but it still ends in NEMA plug.

Also how do you hook up the J plugs either at your house or at stations?

See this in another active thread:

Just bought a 2021 Zero S..Interested in the J1772 charge adapter. Will the one listed below work?
https://www.evseadapters.com/products/j1772-to-c-13-adapter-for-electric-motorcycle-scooter/

Yes, it will work if you do not ever want to add chargers.

A much better deal are these here. The 3 times C-13. Not shown, but ask and one will be made for you at a very reasonable price. The quality is the best you will find anywhere.  The times 2 C-13 is shown.  I had him make mine as three C-13's. That way I can use the OBC as well as two Delta Q's plus many other options with adapters for the C-13.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[evdjerome]

I'd be interested in at least one if it's "plug and play". On the AC side I'd prefer C-19.

Anyone know what the 1C is for the 14.4 battery? Wondering if I get the 6KW Charge Tank installed and dub-J with two of these 3.3 Elcon's whether I'd remain within the 1C rating. My onboard is dead and I have no plans to replace it.

[DonTom]

I'd be interested in at least one if it's "plug and play". On the AC side I'd prefer C-19.

Anyone know what the 1C is for the 14.4 battery? Wondering if I get the 6KW Charge Tank installed and dub-J with two of these 3.3 Elcon's whether I'd remain within the 1C rating. My onboard is dead and I have no plans to replace it.

1C is normally close to the NOMINAL KWH rating of the battery. I would not want to go much over 12KW charging on your 14.4KW battery. While it could sound like you're slightly over with 12.6 KW, you will be fine. There will be a nice voltage drop at 12.6 KW that will most likely put you below the 12KW. So you will be okay, IMO, but I wouldn't want to charge at a higher rate than that.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[flynnstig82r]

Related to evdjerome’s question, if you exceed 1C and the external chargers are plugged into the accessory port will the bike just throttle back its charge tank speed to stay under 1C or will it cut out completely?

[Crissa]

Related to evdjerome’s question, if you exceed 1C and the external chargers are plugged into the accessory port will the bike just throttle back its charge tank speed to stay under 1C or will it cut out completely?

It will not, because it won't know that's happening.

You can pop the fuses in both the battery pack and the and EVSE that way.

-Crissa