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[travbee]

Hope this is acceptable for me to post this.

I know I'm new to the forums - but would like to see if there is any interest in a group buy in some of the Elcon 3.3kw external chargers.

https://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/9034090/10295140.htm

I have spoken with Sayyed @ Elcon quite a bit.

This charger fully programmed for our Zero is $750 + $45 shipping, when purchased alone.

If we can get commitment to 5 or more, the price drops substantially to $638 per charger (plus shipping.)

I plan to purchase 2, and I'm fairly confident from speaking with other members that there is plenty of interest for us to hit the 5 mark and save some money.

Post up if you're interested!

Also if this breaking forum rules in some way, I apologize. Please let me know how I can set this up with our members.

[StableofZeros]

I’d be interested.

[MVetter]

How are you planning to connect them to the bikes and AC power?

[travbee]

I'm solidifying connections with Sayyed @ Elcon currently.

I'd like plug and play but am not staying thats what it will be.

I may possibly assist with adapters that connect from the SBS50 on the Elcon to the SBS75 on the accessory port.

This is still a work in progress.

[MVetter]

The DC out lines are the easy part. Right now the AC lines use a sumitomo for which you'll either need to get the other side of the connector or cut up the wires, re-pin, and use a new connector, then attach to a J1772 inlet with EVSE protocol.

[travbee]

Well maybe that's where you come into play helping with the J to AC in portion.

I know you have the skillset

And I'm being entirely serious.

[KrazyEd]

I don't do a lot of road tripping these days, but carry an Elcon 2500 and QuiQ 1KW and J1772 Adaptor when I do.
Takes about 2 hours to fill. Might be interested in one if Plug and Play.

[MVetter]

Well maybe that's where you come into play helping with the J to AC in portion.

I know you have the skillset

And I'm being entirely serious.

I will not be offering such a service; been down that road before.

What Brandon and I are still kicking around, however is the idea of open-sourcing everything. And I mean everything. The v2.5 code, the beta code that obeyed EVSE protocols with dub-j but was never finalized, the emergency v3 code. With it I would probably make one video of every step/connector and modification done to one of these units to make it similar to the ones we used to make/sell. I think Brandon is more interested in getting at least a little bit of money for his code, as he did put a ton of work into it, before making it open to all, and I think he has absolutely zero interest in showing people how to hack up chargers. So if we do this he'd explain the software side of things and I'd need a donor unit and aaaaallllll the components necessary to make one; I'd then do that part on my own.

In theory.

[Shadow]

...What Brandon and I are still kicking around, however is the idea of open-sourcing everything. And I mean everything. The v2.5 code, the beta code that obeyed EVSE protocols with dub-j but was never finalized, the emergency v3 code. With it I would probably make one video of every step/connector and modification done to one of these units to make it similar to the ones we used to make/sell...

That ship has sailed years ago concerning fear about good will from Zero - a then-precarious situation of not wanting to sandbag the only reputable EV moto manufacturer of that period. Now there's easy-enough access to parts and technical information that I wouldn't be too concerned about unfinished code and documenting everything upfront... release the trove as-is in reproducible source form (no firmware binaries) as a git scm repository? Is there any legally-protected secret sauce in the from Zero to worry about?

If you give it away it frees you up to create revenue from new content (making videos, hyping up interesting pull requests, patreon, drawing attention to new projects) instead of worrying about whether what you've got is presentable. There are independently developed arduino sketches with source code to control the 3.3kW module on Zero bikes... nothing too fancy but Zero now sells a bike with optional 12kW charging and there's the L3-capable Energica... publishing that DigiNow Supercharger information on a permissive open source license would be a great way to showcase the advantages the product had over "good enough" DIY solutions.

[josequinones]

I ordered one before I saw this thread, oops. Is this still active?

[ESokoloff]

I’m interested (possibly in two units).
Will need to figure it all out as I’ve got Zero experience in EV charging other then the built in 120v on my DSR.

[travbee]

This is still 100% active. I'm waiting for Sayyed from Elcon to get some parts to make these more plug and play for us - apparently go time will be around end of May.

[flynnstig82r]

If those parts solve the AC connector issues that MVetter referenced, then I'm in for two.

[travbee]

These SHOULD be set up with a standard US style AC cable.

I will email Sayyed again to see how close we are to getting the required parts.

[mryan]

I would definitely be interested.