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Author Topic: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?  (Read 3005 times)

travbee

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https://www.evcomponents.com/elcon-tc-hk-j-3300w-charger.html

I was looking at one of these chargers.

You need to basically tell them how to set it up for you, in order for it to work with our zeros.

Can someone help me fill out the blanks on the form?

I basically want to be able to use this, plus the onboard slow charger, to get faster charger while on the go.

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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2021, 12:03:28 AM »

Hey,
sure, I recently bought from them. It took very long to deliver, keep that in mind.
I recommend you just email them directly, instead of filling out the form. Tell Michael it's for a Zero bike, he'll know all the neccessary things.
There's a CAN version, which you can control via CAN, but this would require you to build or buy a device to send the CAN messages.
There's an automatic version, that he sets up for your, you just plug it in and it works. Tell him which one you want.

All Zero bikes from 2013 on have: A lithium battery with 28S (cells in series) at about 120Ah.
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2021, 12:14:48 AM »

Hey,
sure, I recently bought from them. It took very long to deliver, keep that in mind.
I recommend you just email them directly, instead of filling out the form. Tell Michael it's for a Zero bike, he'll know all the neccessary things.
There's a CAN version, which you can control via CAN, but this would require you to build or buy a device to send the CAN messages.
There's an automatic version, that he sets up for your, you just plug it in and it works. Tell him which one you want.

All Zero bikes from 2013 on have: A lithium battery with 28S (cells in series) at about 120Ah.

Thank you so much!

Please email me what you got?

travisjbeers @ gmail.com
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2021, 04:07:33 AM »

https://www.evcomponents.com/elcon-tc-hk-j-3300w-charger.html

I was looking at one of these chargers.

You need to basically tell them how to set it up for you, in order for it to work with our zeros.

Can someone help me fill out the blanks on the form?

I basically want to be able to use this, plus the onboard slow charger, to get faster charger while on the go.
Why not buy it direct from Elcon?  They already know how to program them. A guy by the same of Sayyad (from Pakistan) programs them for Elcon. He knows me. I have gone on several rides with him. He owns a HD Livewire.

He programmed up my four Zero chargers.

-Don- Reno, NV
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2021, 04:32:50 AM »

https://www.evcomponents.com/elcon-tc-hk-j-3300w-charger.html

I was looking at one of these chargers.

You need to basically tell them how to set it up for you, in order for it to work with our zeros.

Can someone help me fill out the blanks on the form?

I basically want to be able to use this, plus the onboard slow charger, to get faster charger while on the go.
Why not buy it direct from Elcon?  They already know how to program them. A guy by the same of Sayyad (from Pakistan) programs them for Elcon. He knows me. I have gone on several rides with him. He owns a HD Livewire.

He programmed up my four Zero chargers.

-Don- Reno, NV

I think this is a great idea.

I'll email them now!
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2021, 04:49:51 AM »

I just filled out the form and mentioned Sayyad.

Anyone have experience with the 6.6kw one?

Is it too big to bring along?
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2021, 05:33:07 AM »

I just filled out the form and mentioned Sayyad.

Anyone have experience with the 6.6kw one?

Is it too big to bring along?
I am not sure about the 6.6kw one, as I never have seen it, but I would guess it would be too large.

I carry an Elcon 3.3KW in each Zero sidebag and I can charge my 2017 SR up to 8KW on the road (ten KW at home). There is some room left over with the 3.3KW chargers in each side bag, but not much and they are close to the weight limit for each as it is.

-Don-  Reno, NV
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2021, 05:43:16 AM »


I think this is a great idea.

I'll email them now!
I have mine to NOT use Canbus. Makes it easier to set up. This disadvantage is that they will stop charging at 95% SOC and from there, the OBC will finish the job.

The last 5% will slow down a lot either way and I doubt if you would even notice the difference when you want to charge to full 100% SOC.

The nice thing about that last 5%, is it gives me the time to put the Elcons back in my sidebags  as the bike is still charging with the OBC.

I have mine wired direct to the motor controller battery inputs.

BTW, you probably want to read this.

-Don-  Reno, NV
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2021, 02:13:37 PM »

hello!
you can read my post from a few weeks ago:
https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=10995.0
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2021, 02:45:55 PM »

Side question about this, if you have two of these 3.3kw chargers, do you plug them on the bike via one anderson connector and an Y adapter or are there two available connectors on the bike ?
is there a power/current limit on these connectors and the wiring between them and the battery ?

lots of nice information in this thread anyway, I'm really tempted to add one or two of these to the charge tank...
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2021, 03:27:14 PM »

nice, thanks !
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2021, 10:11:53 PM »

There is one brown anderson plug on the bike. You need a Y-cable before that:)
the anderson can handle the ~100A that the battery can take maximum.

Ooooh, exploded charge fuses! This is gonna be fun where's my popcorn
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2021, 10:21:52 PM »

Ooooh, exploded charge fuses!
How many amps is that charge fuse?  Did I hear it's in a cable that is almost impossible to get to?

But since it is designed for as many as four  ~1 KW watt Delta Q's, I would not want to go over  4 KW of charging using that connector.

I have my Elcons wired directly to the motor controller battery inputs  where I know it has to be able to handle very high current. My Elcons for my SR will add up to 6.6 KW to the motor controller there alone, even if I charge at 10 KW also using Delta Q's and the OBC.

-Don-  Reno, NV

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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2021, 10:57:34 PM »

It's a thermal 100 amp fuse with a fair amount of insulation around it.
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Re: Newb here - Can someone help w/ purchasing an Elcon TC HK-J charger?
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2021, 01:05:26 AM »

It's a thermal 100 amp fuse with a fair amount of insulation around it.
That should be good for well more than that 6.6 KW of charging.


6,600 watts divided by   95 VDC    (0% SOC)=  69.5 amps
6,600 watts divided by 117 VDC (100% SOC) = 56.4 amps


-Don-  Reno, NV
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