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Smallest portable level 1 charger
« on: April 03, 2021, 08:43:54 AM »

Hey all,

I've got a 2020 SR/F that I dearly love, but I miss the convenience I had with my old 2013 FX of plugging into any random wall outlet anywhere I went.  So now I'm on the lookout for the smallest possible level 1 J1772 charger.  The ultimate would be just some little adapter with a J1772 plug on one side and a C13 socket on the other side, enabling the use of any regular appliance cord to charge the bike.  Has anyone heard of such a thing, or anything similar?

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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2021, 11:45:59 AM »

Yes, that exists.  It's just a socket, a plug, and a bit of wire, I think.

...I don't know where to buy one right now, though.

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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2021, 11:31:16 PM »

I think the Turbocord is on the smaller side of EVSEs.
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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2021, 11:50:33 PM »

Hey all,

I've got a 2020 SR/F that I dearly love, but I miss the convenience I had with my old 2013 FX of plugging into any random wall outlet anywhere I went.  So now I'm on the lookout for the smallest possible level 1 J1772 charger.  The ultimate would be just some little adapter with a J1772 plug on one side and a C13 socket on the other side, enabling the use of any regular appliance cord to charge the bike.  Has anyone heard of such a thing, or anything similar?

Thanks!
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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2021, 12:01:55 AM »

So now I'm on the lookout for the smallest possible level 1 J1772 charger. 
The charger is inside your bike. J-1772 is not a charger at all, it's just another AC outlet.

So I am assuming you're looking for a small 120 VAC granny cable.

You should be able to modify the one that came with the bike to be much shorter and smaller and then use an extension cord as I mentioned in my previous message.

I can charge my Zeros from just about anywhere I can find AC, regardless if 120 or 240 VAC. Tesla Destination, J1772, outlets of various types. Perhaps you want the same.

Here is an example of a weird outlet. Click on the photo there of my bike and look at the very last photo.


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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2021, 01:37:38 AM »

Wow look at all of those suggestions that are PHYSICALLY LARGER THAN THE TURBOCORD
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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2021, 02:46:17 AM »

Wow look at all of those suggestions that are PHYSICALLY LARGER THAN THE TURBOCORD
Except for my modification.  BTW, do you mean this one?

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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2021, 03:46:13 AM »

Wow look at all of those suggestions that are PHYSICALLY LARGER THAN THE TURBOCORD
Except for my modification.  BTW, do you mean this one?

-Don-  Reno, NV

That does look pretty small but it still isn't comparable to the cable that the FX/FXS uses.  I think the OP is looking for a cable without any kind of intermediate control box.   Even the J1772 plug itself is quite large.   

I wonder if anyone has found a way to install a simple C13/C14 socket on the SR/S or SR/F and wire it to the onboard charger (or half the onboard charger??)? 
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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2021, 05:43:56 AM »

Except for my modification.  BTW, do you mean this one?

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Turbocord certainly appears to be smaller than your modification, yes.

Look guys the chargers on the SR/F platform are set up to obey EVSE protocol. They only function when given the right signal via the resistors in the EVSE. And they're set up only to accept input from J1772 guns. So whatever cord you get has to have a J1772 gun on one side and some sort of comms box along the way. Again, the Turbocord is smaller than anything anyone else has linked for this purpose.

Prove me wrong.
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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2021, 08:55:32 AM »

Turbocord certainly appears to be smaller than your modification, yes.

Look guys the chargers on the SR/F platform are set up to obey EVSE protocol. They only function when given the right signal via the resistors in the EVSE. And they're set up only to accept input from J1772 guns. So whatever cord you get has to have a J1772 gun on one side and some sort of comms box along the way. Again, the Turbocord is smaller than anything anyone else has linked for this purpose.

Prove me wrong.
I would have to see it to be sure. Looks like the cord is a bit long and the plug (granny box?)  is huge.  I would probably shorten the length  even on the Turbocord and then use extension cords for the desired length to meet the requirements for each trip.

But I am glad to see they are being made smaller. We need a motorcycle version.

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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2021, 09:26:17 AM »

That is literally the unit that H-D shoves under the seat of the LiveWire.
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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2021, 09:56:58 AM »

Couldn't the communications be small enough to fit in the J-plug, if you only wanted the one power level?

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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2021, 10:11:42 AM »

That is literally the unit that H-D shoves under the seat of the LiveWire.
Doesn't the LW come with a cheaper 120VAC only version?

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Re: Smallest portable level 1 charger
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2021, 11:01:29 AM »

Thanks for all the replies and info, folks!  I never fail to be humbled by the knowledge offered by this forum.    ;D

Yes, the ultimate would be a C13 socket on the bike.  In the absence of that, a miniaturized J1772 gun with a C13 socket as its input would be fantastic.  In the meantime, the Turbocord appears to be the best option.  For nearly $500.  Ooof.

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