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Author Topic: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS  (Read 2948 times)

princec

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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2021, 04:01:32 PM »

Same here and my discs were fuxx0red within a thousand miles. I think that tiny imperfections in the wheel casting, and a fixed mounting, and not-the-best-quality discs, all add up to a recipe for warpage.

I seem to recall that OEM discs are typically cut from a huge coil of steel cut into slices. The nearer the centre of the coil your discs are cut from, the more likely they are to deform when heated. High quality aftermarket discs by Galfer, Braking, Brembo, EBC etc. are milled out of flat sheets instead to far higher quality. I would seriously consider replacing the Zero discs with one of these manufacturers - they will likely last far better. Even better if you can get a fully-floating rotor mounting as well but it's unlikely there's a handy fitment for the SR/* bikes without possibly replacing the whole front wheel...

I think it was Spondon who invented the fully floating button mount for disc brakes 40 years ago but it is a bit strange that they're not more commonly used. The fully decoupled mounting allows the discs to expand when they get hot without buckling against rigid cast wheel mounting points, and isolates the heat to the rotor blade rather than allowing it to heat the wheel up (potentially making that change shape, too...) etc. It's win all round.

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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2021, 08:50:20 PM »

2021 SR/S owner here and I have the same problem. Brakes were amazing when new but now pulse really bad especially at low speeds. With each pulse I can literally feel it in the brake lever from fluid being forced backwards into the master cylinder. I measured the thickness of the rotors at a few different spots and noticed it varied by as much as 0.5mm

Looking to replace the rotors with a different brand so if anyone has luck with a particular one please post it here.
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2021, 09:10:05 PM »

Sux, I remember contacting several brands and receiving the answer no, we do not make disks for Zeros.

I think Galfer was one of them. Regrettably I didn't make notes about it and when a poster here kindly linked me to the OEM part on AF1's website on the first page of this thread I ordered from there and forgot about the rest.

FWIW I didn't find ANY alternatives. With luck somebody knows something we don't and will share it.
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2021, 09:17:11 PM »

2021 SR/S owner here and I have the same problem. Brakes were amazing when new but now pulse really bad especially at low speeds. With each pulse I can literally feel it in the brake lever from fluid being forced backwards into the master cylinder. I measured the thickness of the rotors at a few different spots and noticed it varied by as much as 0.5mm

Looking to replace the rotors with a different brand so if anyone has luck with a particular one please post it here.

Sorry if I'm saying something you already know, but its not varying thickness that is your issue most likely. The disks actually bend so they are not flat. Also in case you have not read this entire thread through, one of my disks literally had cracks in it, which is terrifying. Be sure your disks don't have the cracks too.
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2021, 09:39:18 PM »

Cracks is again a symptom of warping under extreme heat while being very rigidly fixed in place. The steel ain't got nowhere to go so...

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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2021, 10:25:27 PM »

I believe EBC makes replacement rotors.  The part number is MD669X.
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2021, 10:57:17 PM »

Hmm.
Out of time here's something for people to look into but I have to go do other things, Ill be back later.

https://ebcbrakes.com/assets/Flip-Catalogues/EBC_HARLEY_CAT_ISSUE_402_2021_FLIP_April/EBC_HARLEY_CAT_ISSUE_402_2021_FLIP_April.html

Navigate to page 18, it says MD1187C for disks.


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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2021, 11:02:32 PM »

I believe EBC makes replacement rotors.  The part number is MD669X.

I see that here, but it says they are out of stock.

https://ebcbrakesdirect.com/motorcycle/zero-electric-motorcycles/zero-sr-s/2019-2021/40772

EDIT: They are on amazon $185 US
EDIT EDIT: Those appear not to be the right kind. EBC direct says they are, amazon says they arent. Maybe different kinds for different models of bike? IDK. Still looking.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2021, 02:15:06 AM by 2020_SRS_Commuter »
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2021, 05:06:26 AM »

I sent some emails.

EBC quickly wrote me back:  the correct part number is MD1187C, and they have four in stock. Now they have two.  ;D

AF1 also responded fast and cancelled my order for the OEM disc.

The EBC versions are here: ( Click the "Disc" tab at the top next to the magnifying glass icon )

https://perfectbrakes.com/motorcycle/partno/md1187c

I'm assuming that the stock photo is incorrect or maybe incomplete. It only shows the braking surface, not the mounting part that doesn't float. They told me this is the correct disc in email.



« Last Edit: July 24, 2021, 07:39:26 AM by 2020_SRS_Commuter »
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2021, 03:32:50 PM »

I have figured this out a few weeks ago:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/zmcowners/permalink/4079340815468429/

I also posted a lot of part numbers in another thread here on the forum about fitting rotors from Galfer, Brembo, EBC, TRW etc.:

https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=11028.msg103290#msg103290

The bolts are critical though
« Last Edit: July 24, 2021, 03:39:07 PM by NervEasy »
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2021, 02:28:25 AM »

Awesome. You are the person I was hoping would show up. I'm going to copy out all of your info to my Zero maintenance files. 
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2021, 05:35:34 AM »

I have figured this out a few weeks ago:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/zmcowners/permalink/4079340815468429/

I also posted a lot of part numbers in another thread here on the forum about fitting rotors from Galfer, Brembo, EBC, TRW etc.:

https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=11028.msg103290#msg103290

The bolts are critical though

^ Horary!!! Thanks for sharing those Bolt Part Numbers  8)

In case anyone cares to know, where the magic bolts can be ordered:
https://www.maddparts.com/oemparts/partsearch/yamaha?partsearch=90149-08010-00

I ordered a dozen, to save for when needed.



Whoever is the first to get aftermarket rotors installed, lets see some pics!
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2021, 05:06:25 PM »

I have the TRW version laying around but only dry fitted them, they fit fine with these bolts. Was really difficult to isolate the correct bolts... (correct shoulder height etc...) But at the moment I'm still using the Zero discs now (still working fine after 2500 km).

I have seen someone from the UK has fitted EBC discs after I posted the numbers, but he used the Zero bolts and that was not really a good solution. But the EBC rotors fitted fine.

The TRW ones have a very cool blueish titanium colored inner part. which I think would be pretty with the blue SR/S or the Mint SR/F.
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Re: Replacement brake disk for 2020 SRS
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2021, 02:48:26 AM »

Just a quick note, my disks arrived today from EBC and they are NOT replacements. These are completely flat and don't have the offset inner part to attach to the wheel. Very frustrating. I've contacted them for a refund and shipping label. Don't buy MD1187C . The EBC rep was wrong.
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