ElectricMotorcycleForum.com

  • November 29, 2024, 04:39:44 AM
  • Welcome, Guest
Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Electric Motorcycle Forum is live!

Pages: [1] 2

Author Topic: worthless gasoline  (Read 916 times)

DonTom

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5078
    • View Profile
worthless gasoline
« on: February 03, 2021, 03:32:28 PM »

Logged
1971 BMW R75/5
1984 Yamaha Venture
2002 Suzuki DR200SE
2013 Triumph Trophy SE
2016 Kawasaki Versys 650 LT
2017 Blk/Gold HD Road Glide Ultra
2017 Org Zero DS ZF 6.5/(now is 7.2)
2017 Red Zero SR ZF13 w/ Pwr Tank
2020 Energica EVA SS9
2023 Energica Experia LE
2023 Zero DSR/X

Oldun

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 54
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2021, 03:53:41 PM »

Sure. All road transport will be EV real soon now. /sarc
Logged

princec

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1241
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2021, 04:39:17 PM »

These days 10 years passes in the blink of an eye...

Cas :)
Logged

Fran K

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 638
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2021, 07:31:52 PM »

Yahoo finance has turned off the comment section.

I would think this internet forum is mainly users not investors.  The article seems to say politics and investor behavior are related.
Logged

Crissa

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3144
  • Centauress
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2021, 12:17:14 AM »

If it takes five-ten years to develop a car, well, they'd better be on in since the sunset for emissions cars is starting to show up in law makers eyes.

And why shouldn't it?  Making a long-term decision now sounds good for everyone's lungs and the climate we live in.

-Crissa
Logged
2014 Zero S ZF8.5

Oldun

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 54
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2021, 01:07:19 AM »

These days 10 years passes in the blink of an eye...

Cas :)

Haha yes, this - I was in my sixties just last year  8)

Logged

gregj

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 81
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2021, 02:07:29 AM »

Until you can solve the problem of distance and ability to charge in places like Australia  ( or Siberia for that matter) fuel/fuelable vehiclesare going to have to exist. Once you get even a short distance( Australian short distance, not high density country short distance) there is nowhere to recharge . I lived in a place where the next large town was 350km in one direction, 390 in the opposite direction and 1000km to the west. In Western Australia there is a section of the main highway that has a inter fuel stop distance of 400km with absolutely NOTHING in between.
EV's make complete sense in towns and cities. Noone could argue that. But the majority of the world ( not people, actual world...) ISN'T in towns and cities. To go to the other side of town ( I live 8km outside town), and back is 80km round trip, with a large amount of 100kph road. Pretty much stuff all emotorcycles currently are suitable.

No I am not naive enough to think that anybody will give a stuff about anybody except those in cities. EV's are being mandated as the ONLY vehicles, meaning the rural areas will slowly become no go zones and even more disadvantaged than now.
In this country, most tourism is private motorvehicle. If you think the pandemic has hit the tourist industry hard, wait til there is only EV's.
 
Logged

princec

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1241
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2021, 02:22:05 AM »

Au contraire, I reckon that the motel will become a thing again, and the hospitality industry will thrive as places to stop for the night and recharge spring up. Also a thriving market in solar panels and enormous batteries in the desert.

Let's face it though the problem is not really ICE, it's the fact that 90% of journeys should probably never have been made. Or, it could be said, 90% of vehicles. We're spoiled children.

Cas :)
Logged

Curt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 670
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2021, 02:03:50 PM »

Let's face it though the problem is not really ICE, it's the fact that 90% of journeys should probably never have been made. Or, it could be said, 90% of vehicles. We're spoiled children.

And 90% of structures should never have been built, and 90% of companies didn't need to exist, and there should have been 90% fewer births, and...
No need to regret history. I regret very few trips I've ever made, even if you regret 90% of the trips I made. :) I hope to make many, many more.
Logged

princec

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1241
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2021, 07:23:39 PM »

Logged

Richard230

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9674
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2021, 08:29:12 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55931523

yolo

Cas :)

I heard yesterday that Exxon-Mobil lost a boat-load of money last year for the first time in the history of the company. The times they are a-changing.  ;)
Logged
Richard's motorcycle collection:  2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2020 KTM 390 Duke, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 (FZS1000N) and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

Oldun

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 54
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2021, 04:07:12 AM »

I remember when Exxon lost a boat load of money the year the Exxon Valdez ran aground.
Logged

Richard230

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9674
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2021, 04:14:51 AM »

I remember when Exxon lost a boat load of money the year the Exxon Valdez ran aground.

But apparently not nearly as much as they lost this year. This year the boat actually sank.   ;)
Logged
Richard's motorcycle collection:  2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2020 KTM 390 Duke, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 (FZS1000N) and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

Curt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 670
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2021, 08:47:48 AM »

One data point from a pandemic year is hardly indicative of a long-term trend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Russia%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_oil_price_war
Logged

Crissa

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3144
  • Centauress
    • View Profile
Re: worthless gasoline
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2021, 09:02:30 AM »

The price war was already ill-advised.  But I think the Saudis are of the thought they can push the price down lond enough to kill exploration so as the demand curve comes back down, they can maintain scarcity.  There'll be a gap between their price and shale & sand oil.

-Crissa
Logged
2014 Zero S ZF8.5
Pages: [1] 2