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[HoodRichOG]

Bump. Any news from Lightning these days?

[MVetter]

My last encounter with them was they are dipping their toes in the waters of CCS charging. I actually met with Hatfield and did a livestream at a DC station and recorded the bike getting some charge. During the video I cleared asking 2 questions ahead of time: 1.) Will you (Richard) explain how to read the BMS screen and 2.) What is the LVC for this battery pack?

He did go through line-by-line and explained the BMS screen. He then said the LVC (low voltage cutoff aka 0%) on the Strike Carbon Editions is 200vdc. The top end of the packs is ~300vdc or 4.15vdc per cell, 72S. This would put the bottom end of the pack at 2.78vdc.

Every other manufacturer tends to call 0% around 3.4vdc for comparison.

[JaimeC]

Woah!  Richard actually spoke to you without threatening to call the cops??

[princec]

...."And now fuck off, before I call the cops."

Cas

[MVetter]

Actually we all had lunch together afterwards. If you have access to the Lightning Facebook group the video is here

[NEW2elec]

Impressive charge rate.  Also clearly shows why it's best to unplug at 95% SOC as the station ramps down.

Glad to see everyone being nice and working toward a common goal.  Nice job.

[HoodRichOG]

Thanks for the video. Was able to view it without a Facebook account.

Those charge rates are pretty intense. Seems like it would damage the battery pack at such rates at high SOC.

Any news of Strike production or deliveries?

[MVetter]

Nope. Nothing. I am just reporting facts at this point instead of speculation.

[DonTom]

Impressive charge rate.  Also clearly shows why it's best to unplug at 95% SOC as the station ramps down.

Except for cell balancing.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Hansi]

I'm happy to see Lightning apparently becoming more active lately. Hopefully they'll be an alternative in the future 

[flynnstig82r]

There are alternatives right now from Energica. They've been pushing the envelope of what an electric motorcycle can do based on their experience building bikes for MotoGP's E-series races, so you should be very skeptical of any company claiming to greatly exceed their capabilities.

[HoodRichOG]

2022 news about Lightning, and I'm not even joking:

https://www.mmsonline.com/articles/generative-design-for-milling-lightweights-ev-motorbike-part

[Curt]

2022 news about Lightning, and I'm not even joking:

https://www.mmsonline.com/articles/generative-design-for-milling-lightweights-ev-motorbike-part

Hmm, that's cool to be working with Autodesk on generative designs. On the other hand, it seems like a bit of a distraction. More-than-adequate swingarm designs were figured out 100 years ago. On the other hand, companies with expensive, high-end cool-factor products seem to win in the long run.

[wavelet]

2022 news about Lightning, and I'm not even joking:

https://www.mmsonline.com/articles/generative-design-for-milling-lightweights-ev-motorbike-part

Hmm, that's cool to be working with Autodesk on generative designs. On the other hand, it seems like a bit of a distraction. More-than-adequate swingarm designs were figured out 100 years ago. On the other hand, companies with expensive, high-end cool-factor products seem to win in the long run.

Lightning doesn't have products; the term implies goods for retail sale. The LS-218 certainly wasn't a production motorcycle, and the "record" they claim for it relied on significant one-off modifications. One-off motorcycles for racing/prototypes don't count.

It's coming up on three years since the "launch" of the Strike, and still nada. I truly wonder where their money for ongoing operations comes from.

[ultrarnr]

wavelet, I have seen that brought up before in other threads and I don't think anyone really knows how Lightning stays in business or where they get their money from. Consulting was one idea that was brought up. And maybe funding Lightning is a tax right-off for some unknown company.  Really hard to say.