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reini

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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2020, 01:56:50 PM »

I'm wondering if they offer the VCU software upgrade of the RS models to existing +-models. But then, until now I've never felt to not have enough acceleration already :)
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2020, 04:14:47 PM »

I feel the same, weight reduction is key.
as said by the best mechanical engineer ever, light is right.  8)

only fools are not looking for weight reduction ^^

it would improve Acceleration, range, braking, handling, low speed handling, increse lifetime for tires, brakes, Chain and sprockets...

Would be amazing to loose 40kg  ;D.

please make a naked Lightweight version :D

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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2020, 06:13:14 PM »

My 690 weighs under 90kg when you remove the engine, exhaust, radiator, and petrol. As I see it that leaves 100kg for batteries, cooling, electronics, OBC, and motor before it gets "too heavy". Certainly looks doable.

Cas :)
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2020, 09:35:57 PM »

Here is more news regarding the 2021 Energica model line. Beautiful bikes with more power than you really need:

https://electricmotorcycles.news/energica-unveils-the-2021-product-news-on-the-moto-it-festival-platform/
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DonTom

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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2020, 11:26:56 PM »


 What does that extra weight buy?
I would prefer it to weight even more if I could get a few other features such as a centerstand, 6 KW charging, travel trunk , etc. Weight is way down the list of the things I really care about.

It's a trade-off and we are all looking for different things. But I would take more features over a weight reduction any day.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2020, 12:20:27 AM »

I'd ditch the AC charging on-board, anything to trim weight down.

-Crissa
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2020, 02:13:10 AM »

That'd remove like 90% of the available public charging stations here in the UK... I think really they probably need to concentrate on getting the weight of those things down and down and down.

Cas :)
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2020, 03:04:43 AM »

I'd ditch the AC charging on-board, anything to trim weight down.

-Crissa
But you can. Even on your Zero. If you only charge at home, you can  leave all your charging stuff there, by removing the bike's charger and find another way to keep the bike charged at home. Even from that same charger externally. You probably will have to make some longer cables or whatever. 

But I often charge on the road.  For an example,  I have done rides around Lake Tahoe many times. Leaving from here as well as Reno, on both my Energica as well as my Zero SR. 

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2020, 05:08:00 AM »

Everywhere I go, there's a DC charger on the route.  So there's no reason to haul around a bulky AC charger, honestly.

Sure, I need one at home.  Not really a big deal.

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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2020, 07:56:26 AM »

Everywhere I go, there's a DC charger on the route.  So there's no reason to haul around a bulky AC charger, honestly.

Sure, I need one at home.  Not really a big deal.

-Crissa
CCS chargers are common on the main routes in CA. Far from any large towns is the issue, Such as Susanville, Quincy, Alturas, etc. but in many of such places, you can still find AC to charge with.

In NV, it's the J1772 that is everywhere. No CCS charger even in Lovelock, NV and that is right on I-80.

I will head out to Death Valley in about a week in my RV, with my DS. Now they even have J1772 in DV, but  no CCS.

On the road, I want to be able to charge no matter what I can find.

I just checked Plugshare, They are about ready to install CCS  at the LoveLock, NV  Safeway! Still no J1772. Things are changing fast!  Almost every time I check Plugshare, I notice a new charge location these days, making range less important.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2020, 11:50:00 AM »

Is it possible for us to remove our AC charger, and keep DCFC? For track days, of course.
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2020, 03:11:07 PM »

DC charging doesn't use the AC charger at all.  Not sure how much a discrete component it is, though.

-Crissa
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2020, 11:43:28 PM »

The AC charger only weighs 8 lbs.

I'd say its usefulness outweighs (heh) its mass.
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DonTom

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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2020, 12:50:08 AM »

The AC charger only weighs 8 lbs.

I'd say its usefulness outweighs (heh) its mass.
Yep, I feel the same way with just about everything on the bike. I want more stuff, not less at the cost of weight. Such as a centerstand and 6WK AC charger.

-Don--  Auburn, CA
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Re: The 2021 Energica's
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2020, 03:28:50 AM »

I'll bet if you take the AC charger out you will have fault messages show up all the time.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2020, 03:34:39 PM by ultrarnr »
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