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[ElektroExpat]

I gave my daughter my old 2014 S when I bought a 2018 S. Both bikes had the Power Tank installed. Neither vehicle has had any problems other than both bikes needing the on-board charger replaced. On comment that I will add is that when I visited the Zero factory they had dozens of Delta Q chargers that were being used to charge up their new battery packs before they were installed in their bikes. And not a Calex (on-board) charger in sight.   

Hello Richard, you had the on-board charger also needing replacement on your 2018 S? How many miles did you have on it when it failed? Common failure signs?
Thanks for any details you can provide

[Richard230]

I gave my daughter my old 2014 S when I bought a 2018 S. Both bikes had the Power Tank installed. Neither vehicle has had any problems other than both bikes needing the on-board charger replaced. On comment that I will add is that when I visited the Zero factory they had dozens of Delta Q chargers that were being used to charge up their new battery packs before they were installed in their bikes. And not a Calex (on-board) charger in sight.   

Hello Richard, you had the on-board charger also needing replacement on your 2018 S? How many miles did you have on it when it failed? Common failure signs?
Thanks for any details you can provide

The 2014 charger started failing slowly around 8000 miles, when it would not fully charge to 100%. By 10K miles it would only charge to 88%, that also corresponded to a lower battery voltage. Replacing the charger brought things back to 100% and it has been hanging in there for the past year.

However, my 2018 charger failed completely without warning while it was charging, leaving the smell of burning garlic in my garage and a small burn hole in the charger case. This happened at 7,600 miles.  The replacement charger looks the same but has a different model number. I sure hope it lasts longer.

[DonTom]

How many miles did you have on it when it failed?

You will probably find the charger  failures to be very random with mileage as well as with age. I have more than 10K miles on each of my Zeros with no charger problems (yet--knock on wood).

However, I reduce the time my OBC is on, as well as decrease the OBC heat a little, by almost always charging with 240 VAC  and adding in a couple of external chargers (when  possible).

-Don-  Reno, NV

[Crissa]

Yeah, my charger hasn't failed - it's from 2014 - and I have four thousand miles on my bike.  So fewer cycles, but over a longer period.

Now I mostly charge on 240, due to the bike being stored about a hundred feet from my house (and thirty feet down).  That's better on the cable.

Zero freely admits the chargers are something they have trouble nailing down, but many continue operation just fine for years.  But they are exposed to transient voltage from the bike, heat, and are dealing with twice the power than a standard tower PC but in a form factor like a PC power supply.

-Crissa

[DonTom]

and are dealing with twice the power than a standard tower PC .

Don't you mean more like five times the power?

120 VAC input at 2.5  amps (typical tower computer power supply)=300 watts AC input power.

120 VAC input at 12.0  amps=(Typical Zero SR, S, DSR OBC) =1,440  watts AC input power.

1,440 watts divided by 300 watts=4.8 times the  power of a tower computer power supply.

-Don- (back in Auburn,  CA   for a day or two).

[Crissa]

My PCs is 1500watts, the ones from spouse's office are 750watts.

They may not be typical, but that's what I think when I think 'PC power supply'.

-Crissa

[DonTom]

My PCs is 1500watts, the ones from spouse's office are 750watts.

They may not be typical, but that's what I think when I think 'PC power supply'.

-Crissa

That sounds like a very large tower! I am curious what make it is, I am not familiar with 1.5 KW  computer towers. Do you have a link to it?   Or are you including more than just the tower, such as a UPS?

I have large UPSes here, and I have even used this computer with the monitors  when PG&E had the power shut off last year.

My UPS also runs my internet cameras. I can see all three of my houses, inside and out, from anywhere I can get a web connection.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Crissa]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/axi-series-config/p/CP-9020057-NA

The PC is a VR development rig.  It's about as fast as you can get stock.  Well, until the new video cards come out next week.

-Crissa

[DonTom]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/axi-series-config/p/CP-9020057-NA

The PC is a VR development rig.  It's about as fast as you can get stock.  Well, until the new video cards come out next week.

-Crissa

That's a 1500 watt capable switching power supply, but I doubt if your tower alone  requires 1,500 watts.

But I find it interesting is that is about the same power capability as our Zero OBC. And reminds me of such, with the (five)  ferrite cores at the output terminals  to reduce the spurious radiation on the output.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[TheRan]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/axi-series-config/p/CP-9020057-NA

The PC is a VR development rig.  It's about as fast as you can get stock.  Well, until the new video cards come out next week.

-Crissa

That's a 1500 watt capable switching power supply, but I doubt if your tower alone  requires 1,500 watts.

But I find it interesting is that is about the same power capability as our Zero OBC. And reminds me of such, with the (five)  ferrite cores at the output terminals  to reduce the spurious radiation on the output.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

You'd struggle to build a computer that purposely pulls 1500w, and even if you chose components rated for that there will be few workloads that put all the components under 100% load at the same time. These days a really high end computer is going to peak around 700-800w and be much less in most use cases, a typical decent gaming computer is going to be under 600w.

[DonTom]

These days a really high end computer is going to peak around 700-800w and be much less in most use cases, a typical decent gaming computer is going to be under 600w.

That's about what I would expect, if not even a bit less.

But I figure it's possible for there to be computers I have not yet heard about that require a ridiculous number of watts.  But I  can't figure out why,   especially these days when just about everything in  computer tower is quite efficient and draws little current.

OTOH, EV batteries really do require a ridiculous number of watts.

I assume the power supply Crissa linked to is designed to run a lot more than a computer tower. Or else it is real overkill.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Crissa]

Well, it's to run a pair of RTX 2080 video cards and and overclocked processor rendering three independent views on multiple 4k displays while transmitting two of them over Intel WiGig and tracking multiple wireless components.

And doing 3d spatial painting and and and x-x

Tho I took the stack of drives out of it since it can run cooler if I do that.

-Crissa

[Mr T]

I think I am going to go check out this bike. There is also a FXS up for sale coming in about $500 cheaper but with a 7.2 battery. I've never even sat on one and with an inseam of 31 inches, it may not be a good fit.  Thanks for all the responses. Side note: This really cracks me up, almost ever forum I have been associated with starts with direct answers to a comment. then the heresay ones come in,  followed by members commenting on comments, then it leaves the rails completely. Such is life.

[TheRan]

I have an inseam of 30" and do fine on my DS with a seat height of 33.2" (I did add a bit more sag on the rear as I'm also fairly light, but even at stock settings it was okay) and the FXS seat height is 32.9". I'm on my toes so I would think you'd probably be able to flat foot it especially in some boots with a bit of a heel on them.

[Mr T]

 Theran, you are probably right. I have a Versys 650 that has a seat height of 33.1, but with the width of the seat, it was a little dicey. I ended up lowering it an inch with an after market part and with the sag adjustment, it ended up being around 31.5. Works great now. the seat on the FXS looks narrower, so I really want to look at the FXS 7.2 and figure out if I can live with 45% less range than the S 13KWH model.