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[NEW2elec]

Better not be like this one at 4:07

[PNWBoy]

This will be supremely disappointing if they don't at the very least bump the battery capacity. Last increase was 2017? So going on nearly 4 years ago.

[princec]

21KWh! Place bets now.

Cas

[Richard230]

21KWh! Place bets now.

Cas

My bet is no dice. I bet Zero keeps the current models as designed with just some minor updates to smooth out any wrinkles in their platform.

[TheRan]

21KWh! Place bets now.

Cas

My bet is no dice. I bet Zero keeps the current models as designed with just some minor updates to smooth out any wrinkles in their platform.

They've been essentially unchanged since 2015-2016 except for battery capacity increases, unless you're talking about just the SR/F+S. 2020 gave us nothing new for all the other models except the FX(S) was made available as an "11kW" model, if the only other thing they can come up with in 2 years is a bunch of stickers it will be a massive disappointment.

[JaimeC]

I'd be happy if they gave us US riders the additional 7.2kWh that they took away from us with the standard "S" model.  Oh, and BRIGHTER colors than black or silver for God's sakes.

[TheRan]

You mean you want a 14.4 non-R? I've never understood why the US doesn't get those, or why Europe doesn't get the 3.6 FX(S).

[Auriga]

You mean you want a 14.4 non-R? I've never understood why the US doesn't get those, or why Europe doesn't get the 3.6 FX(S).

The US got those until last year, when they were eliminated. I heard that was because the base S with the larger battery did not sell very well, so they eliminated it as an option. Same for the Fxs with modular batteries in Europe. Zero's not dumb, they wouldn't have discontinued those if they sold. The more configurations Zero has, the harder it is to have available inventory nearby and increases the chance some bikes don't sell. Logistics costs money

[Crissa]

And you can buy the parts to make what you want, they just don't pre-configure it.

-Crissa

[TheRan]

You mean you want a 14.4 non-R? I've never understood why the US doesn't get those, or why Europe doesn't get the 3.6 FX(S).

The US got those until last year, when they were eliminated. I heard that was because the base S with the larger battery did not sell very well, so they eliminated it as an option. Same for the Fxs with modular batteries in Europe. Zero's not dumb, they wouldn't have discontinued those if they sold. The more configurations Zero has, the harder it is to have available inventory nearby and increases the chance some bikes don't sell. Logistics costs money

They must have really sold bad to justify that. For the 14.4 non-R it wouldn't require them to have any components they didn't already have, it's just sticking the battery from an R on a bike with non-R controller and motor. With the 3.6 FX(S) it's a bit more understandable as it would require keeping the modular batteries in stock. It's also easy to see why the 3.6 models wouldn't sell, but I can't believe that Americans wouldn't be into a cheaper 14.4 model when it's the initial cost and lack of range that puts a lot of people off buying electric.

[JaimeC]

It's not like they stopped making the 14.4 S model.  They still sold them in Europe, so there is absolutely NO REASON they couldn't sell them here too. Even if they didn't sell well here, THEY WERE STILL MAKING THEM!!!!  They just didn't sell them here.  We're not talking about emission control differences so how big a deal would it be to sell a US-compliant 14.4 S model if they were already making a Euro-compliant version??  Considering how many parts are in common with the SR?  Shouldn't cost them a DAMN thing more.

[Crissa]

Why are you so dead set that they waste advertising space on a model that doesn't sell well?

It's not like you can't probably order it.

-Crissa

[TheRan]

Why are you so dead set that they waste advertising space on a model that doesn't sell well?

It's not like you can't probably order it.

-Crissa

What advertising space? I can't say I've ever seen a Zero advert other than from their Instagram account, and it's not like they're paying for that (and the adverts are never for a specific capacity).

I'm not sure how you'd go about ordering it either. Zero themselves don't sell bikes directly and they'd probably say no if you asked them so you'd need to ask a dealer. They'll probably get told no as well and I can't imagine them putting pressure on Zero for it. There would probably be paperwork hassle involved too, it might be classed as a one-off custom model, and you might run into problems trying to register or insure a bike that doesn't exist direct from the manufacturer.

[DonTom]

21KWh! Place bets now.Cas

Think about how long that will take to charge from empty to full with Zero's charging systems.

But not too bad if you have the full 12 KW worth of charging in a place where such is available. Then only  a couple of hours.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[Crissa]

What advertising space? I can't say I've ever seen a Zero advert other than from their Instagram account, and it's not like they're paying for that (and the adverts are never for a specific capacity).

They advertise on Google Ad sense and a couple others.  They advertise to dealers.  And they do take custom orders from dealers for colors and charge tanks and models so... Making their factory and sales materials cleaner by not mentioning all the options is a cost savings.

-Crissa