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[Kappi]

Sure looks like it.
On the plus side: This means that used bikes will depreciate less and your "old SR from three years ago" still looks fresh.

[JaimeC]

Woke up this morning to the Zero announcement email.  So it appears...no changes except colors?

BOLD!  NEW!  GRAPHICS!

AF1 gave us the "Head's Up" at the start of this thread.  Not surprising considering everything that has happened this year (and in California specifically).

[TheRan]

Well it seems like there's a major change over here in Europe, looks like they've dropped the 7.2 S and DS. Makes absolutely no sense and it wouldn't surprise me if this makes older 7.2 models go up in value.

Also there's a regular and an 11kW version of the FX/S available, not sure what the difference even is as they're both limited to 85mph. Why someone would ever buy the version that's more expensive to insure and has a smaller resale market I don't know.

[Richard230]

I received the Zero email message this morning and immediately visited their site. I found the site very confusing to navigate and tried to find out information about the various models, but I couldn't seem to see anything other than some random pictures that I could drag across my screen. There was one strange comment about one of their models having a range of 223 miles and being able to travel from the San Francisco Airport to Sacramento (the state's capital) and back on one charge. That is not going to happen. The only way that I know of to get from San Francisco to Sacramento is on the freeway, which has several mountain ranges to climb before you get to the flat valley area and typical speeds are 75 mph. I really doubt that even their top-of-the-range model will make it to Sacramento on one charge, much less also make it back, unless they know of a route where speeds can be kept to around 35 mph - which I certainly don't. When I tried to click on the message, I didn't get any reaction or any more information regarding that announcement. I would love to see a video of a Zero executive making that trip. 

Anyway, so it is BNG next year? Was anyone able to discover any sort of model technical improvements for 2021? (How about an automatic sanitizing spray feature?    )

[valnar]

Well you can click on the pictures of the motorcycles and they'll take you to that model.  A better way is to click on the 3 horizontal lines in the upper right corner and click directly on the model.

[af1 racing]

yes, just new colors, no changes other than the FX/FXS line went up $300, all other pricing stayed the same. 

Nothing is to say Zero cant have another model launch in the near future, kind of like the SR/F launch, it was released not at their normal annual launch.  Surprised us....

Havent seen anything about a 11kwhr FX/FXS someone mentioned above for EU markets.  Not sure how they would do that in that same chassis, and if so, why didn't the US get it first.

2020 has been rough on everyone for all the known reasons.  The Cali wildfires were no joke around the Zero factory.  It got very close.   Several employees (I think it was 7 they told us) lost their personal houses, and they had to evacuate the factory several times. Cali was on lockdown a long time for COVID too.  Supply chains all messed up, shipping a mess, lots of the World still on lockdown, and many parts are sourced globally.   All the new stuff they'd been working on got delayed.

The very good news is sales are rocking across the whole MC industry.  Many of those customers are looking for EVs now too.   We had another record year with Zero.  Energica too. 

EV side note -- We get our first shipment of Stealth E-bikes from Australia in a couple weeks.   With up to 6200W, its sort of a lightweight e-motorcycle plus 1 human power.  If those go well, we'll add a more std e-bike line too.  We are big fans of EV here.  The EV tech is there to be real usable machines, they are really good now, and it's only getting better.  We keep a 2011 Zero around just to show people the EV motorcycle progression in less than a decade. 

[reini]

Havent seen anything about a 11kwhr FX/FXS someone mentioned above for EU markets.  Not sure how they would do that in that same chassis, and if so, why didn't the US get it first.

https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/de-de/model/zero-fxs shows an 11kw option (not kwhr).

[af1 racing]

Havent seen anything about a 11kwhr FX/FXS someone mentioned above for EU markets.  Not sure how they would do that in that same chassis, and if so, why didn't the US get it first.

https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/de-de/model/zero-fxs shows an 11kw option (not kwhr).

ahh, that makes more sense.  A 11kw one probably for some special tax or licensing purpose.  Prob just a simple software change, as all the specs are the same except 4kw less output.  Appears its a licensing reason.  Easy for Zero to de-tune it.  They made some special ones that only went 12mph for new non-licensed riders to try out inside at the MC shows.  Get new riders to try a bike.   Just a few clicks in the software for them.

21 PS (15 kW) @ 4.300 U/min vs 15 PS (11 kW) @ 3.700

Führerscheinklasse
A2 Führerschein for normal one
A1/B Führerschein for 11kw one

[JeremyConnors]

Dasit?

Woke up this morning to the Zero announcement email.  So it appears...no changes except colors?

BOLD!  NEW!  GRAPHICS!

AF1 gave us the "Head's Up" at the start of this thread.  Not surprising considering everything that has happened this year (and in California specifically).

[valnar]

The Cali wildfires were no joke around the Zero factory.  It got very close.   Several employees (I think it was 7 they told us) lost their personal houses, and they had to evacuate the factory several times.

Wow.  I feel so bad for them.  I can't even imagine.  I hope they had fair warning to take as much as possible.

[TNCreator]

Sure looks like it.
On the plus side: This means that used bikes will depreciate less and your "old SR from three years ago" still looks fresh.

I'm disappointed, I hopped for brand new models or upgrade to drop the price of used srf and srs the only thing I want is 12kw ac charge, and for now that only means one of the above.

[NoMoreIdeas]

In good news, the used market for any 7.2 / 14.4 bikes will remain strong for the next year. I did see on Zero's FB post to 'Stay tuned here for updates throughout the week' which hopefully implies some cool add on / upgrade for existing bikes.

[Crissa]

You don't have to take the freeway to Sacramento, you can go through the delta, which is a popular motorcycle loop.  The only freeway you need is over the bay bridge and that never goes fast.

But I don't know how to do it in 200 miles from SFO.

-Crissa

[shayan]

I wish they introduce a much less bulkier version of the 1kW quick charger. Will come in handy to carry it around in say like a backpack instead of using up saddlebag space. Would be good to get a total of 8.3kW (including the CT) dub-J charging power!

[Crissa]

I wish they introduce a much less bulkier version of the 1kW quick charger.

Then it wouldn't be as reliable.  And more expensive.

-Criss