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[princec]

I imagine they're not because... the ranges suck

Cas

[Richard230]

Methinks manufacturers are instead going to have to quote figures in ranges-at-speeds instead in future.

Cas

That's what Tesla does. All type of charts to show range at various speeds.

I wish they would do this with  electric motorcycles.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

As I recall, Zero has been doing this to a limited extent for some time and in my experience their estimates seem pretty accurate.

[DonTom]

I imagine they're not because... the ranges suck

Cas

Yeah, but Energica has one thing going for them. Their bike is probably the bike with the most range of any for this year  at lower speeds.

But if the specs are accurate the NEW larger 21.5 KWH battery has a freeway range of 112 miles which is exactly the same range Zero claims with their 2019 Zero SR with PowerTank, which is 18 KW max instead of Energica's 21.5 KWH max.

Also the combined range of the Energica + (21.5 KWH) is 143 miles.  The combined range of the Zero SR  with Power tank (18 KWH) is 150 miles.

I would give the longest range award to Zero, not the new Energicas, because we very rarely, if ever,  ride over 200 miles "city". But at such low speeds, Eneriga's 21.5 KWH spec is 249 miles and Zero's 18 KWH is 223 miles, if the specs are accurate.

So IMO, the range award goes to Zero. The fast charge award goes to Energica, but on their older
 13.4 KWH battery even more-so than their 21.5KWH battery.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[DonTom]

As I recall, Zero has been doing this to a limited extent for some time and in my experience their estimates seem pretty accurate.

They have?  What do they say the range is at a steady 80 MPH?

I only  "city, freeway, and combined" and have no idea what the testing speeds are.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Richard230]

As I recall, Zero has been doing this to a limited extent for some time and in my experience their estimates seem pretty accurate.

They have?  What do they say the range is at a steady 80 MPH?

I only  "city, freeway, and combined" and have no idea what the testing speeds are.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

They only offer those three range estimates: city, freeway ( forget the steady speed that is listed, I think it might be 70mph) and a combined range of half city and half freeway.  No 80 mph range for sure.

[TheRan]

Zero gives a City range which is "stop and go" with no speed figures given (however if you look up sae j2982 it might give you some), and Highway ranges at a steady 55mph and 70mph, as well as each Highway speed combined with the City range.

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

I thought this was a thread about BMW.

Anyway, they can accomplish it, and I think an electric motorcycle really could be as robust and long-lived as an R-series bike. It might take 10-15 years to churn through battery chemistry improvements and so on, and we might start getting into capacitor maintenance in the long haul, but I think it's just a matter of organized investment at scale.