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Arnoch

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Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« on: June 02, 2020, 06:44:42 PM »

Hello,

I'm french (excuse me for my english).

Someone around my house is selling a 2012 Zero X enduro.

He says that the battery is good and is in a second with the bms card out of service.

He offers 2500 €

Is it a good deal? What should you watch out for?

How much does a bms card cost if I wanted to replace it on the other battery and I can find that.

I saw on Ebay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EIG-PHEV-EV-designed-lithium-polimer-cells-3-7V-20AH-with-10C-discharge-rate-/254412523047) a person who sells cells of batteries, are these the good models if I wanted one day to remake the battery?

Thank you in advance for your feedback.
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Re: Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2020, 07:56:31 PM »

You might want to check to be sure that bike hasn't been recalled. I am not familiar with the Zero X model, but my daughter's 2012 Zero S and all other S and DS models from 2012 were recalled by Zero a few years ago and sent to the crusher as being a potential fire hazard.  Zero picked up her bike at her home and gave her a $6,200 check (if I recall correctly).  Again: I have no idea if the X model was involved in this recall.  ???
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Re: Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2020, 09:58:36 PM »

You might want to check to be sure that bike hasn't been recalled. I am not familiar with the Zero X model, but my daughter's 2012 Zero S and all other S and DS models from 2012 were recalled by Zero a few years ago and sent to the crusher as being a potential fire hazard.  Zero picked up her bike at her home and gave her a $6,200 check (if I recall correctly).  Again: I have no idea if the X model was involved in this recall.  ???
That is the first I have heard about that recall. I am somewhat surprised Zero could afford such a recall early on and continue in business. What year were the first Zeros made?

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Re: Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2020, 10:24:53 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Motorcycles

Their first retail models were 2010.

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Re: Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2020, 10:41:32 PM »

That is the first I have heard about that recall. I am somewhat surprised Zero could afford such a recall early on and continue in business. What year were the first Zeros made?

-Don-  Reno, NV

REALLY?  There was quite a bit of discussion when this was announced:
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/owner-resources/recall-information/2012-sds-battery-pack-recall/

But it looks like it doesn't affect the FX models, just the S, DS and DSP models.
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Re: Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 03:11:45 AM »


REALLY?  There was quite a bit of discussion when this was announced:
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/owner-resources/recall-information/2012-sds-battery-pack-recall/

But it looks like it doesn't affect the FX models, just the S, DS and DSP models.
Well, 2012 was five years before I even thought about getting into electric motorcycles.

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Re: Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2020, 04:43:27 AM »

Here's a link to the discussion here regarding the 2012 model year battery issue.  I didn't get my first Zero until 2016 but I remember when this news broke.
https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=7891.0
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Re: Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2020, 12:29:19 AM »

The recall happened in 2018 per public filings: https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Recalls
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Re: Buy a Zero X 2012, good ID or NOT
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2020, 02:10:28 AM »

I had a 2012 XU, so closer to the X than the S or DS.
Keep in mind that the 2012 is an orphan and will have no support.
That was the last year before they went to 96 Volts. If you had one, it
might be worth playing around with but, I would not purchase one.
Also, in that area, the 2013 FX and probably the X were also orphans.
The S and DS are forward compatible, but the FX isn't. It has the 96 Volt
battery but, the connections, and contactor are different. Unless, the
person is giving it to you, and you are very handy,  I would probably avoid it.
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