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[twomecas]

Hello everyone, Im a completely new guy on this motorcycle world (even tho I have lots of experience on 2 wheels on mountain bike (eheh!)

Soon I'll buy my first motorbike, a Benelli Leoncino 250. Also I take special attention to the detail/design (as a design student).

What pros and cons, and advices would you give me about buying the shark vancore 2??

I already compared with the old version and see a lot of improvements but I barely see someone using them, people tend to stick to the common moto gp full face helmet or touring modular ones...

Thanks

[BigPoppa]

As cool as the Vancore is (as well as similar helmets like the Bell Rogue which I've had) it only offers the same level of crash protection as a 3/4 helmet.

Over 20 years of riding I've owned full face, modular, open face 3/4, and the aforementioned Bell Rogue. After all the above types of helmets, I've finally settled on full face helmets as my preferred helmet type (currently using 2 carbon fiber helmets, a Bell Eliminator which flows a ton of air and is my hot weather helmet, and a Simpson Ghost Bandit which is my cold weather helmet).

For crash protection, it's incredibly difficult to beat a full face however I understand that it can also be difficult to find a full face that's lightweight and flows enough air in the summer to avoid heat stroke without spending a lot of money.

While I highly recommend getting a good full face helmet, in the end the best helmet is the one you'll actually wear regularly.

[twomecas]

When you mention the protection of the 3/4 helmet protection, I guess you are thinking about the Shark Drak, which I totally agree is not the safest helmet. Although the Vancore 2 is as different version with a rigid chin/front face protection.

As I hate to admit, is not the most ventilated helmet, which keeps me holding back the purchase.

Im just looking to get feedback because there is no retailers near by, and I dont know any users...

[BigPoppa]

You're right...I stand corrected. In that case I can't think of any disadvantage to the goggles vs a face shield other than it's different.
 
If you're in the US, RevZilla has a generous exchange policy for helmets, just make sure not to remove the tags and stickers when test fitting the helmet. Unfortunately that means you won't really be able to do a test ride with it unless the goggles are clear of stickers. They do require any exchanged helmet to be in new condition which usually means a test fit only, like an in-store purchase.

I've exchange a couple of helmets through them due to size issues.

[Doug S]

I have to admit I've never really understood why the dirt bikers prefer the helmet + goggles approach. I suppose it makes sense if you may want to take the helmet off but still want some eye protection, but since you can't ride on the street that way pretty much anywhere, it just seems more like an affectation than anything on the street. Just one more thing to put on when you're gearing up.

[twomecas]

Thanks a lot BigPoppa for the advices. Have to be careful to not peel off anything accidentally. I assume most of the online retailers work similarly, although I am a total beginner and from Europe

Doug S, totally agree with your point of view. Maybe motocross are more likely to accidents and dirt so should be easier to maintain the helmet and replace the goggles I guess... but I have years or mountain bike and i kinda like the idea of using goggles on both, plus the plastic visor look a bit of a cheap option and fragile.

[Crissa]

Goggles are a bit more secure against bouncing particles and they're usually insulated more against your breath.  If you've ever ridden in a dust cloud or blown sand, goggles are superior.

And strangely the combo is usually cheaper than a good visor with a wide field of view.

-Crissa

[Starpower]

Dirt lid/goggles is also preferred for the additional cooling from higher air flow that is dearly appreciated at the slower speeds.