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[ultrarnr]

All,

Had yesterday off so decided to go on a road trip with my Eva utilizing the DCFC system. Here are some details from that trip.

Total mileage: 273 miles
Total time spent charging: 2hr 3 min.

First leg: 54.5 miles 23% SOC remaining (started with 98%)
Charging time: 35 min

Second leg: 53.7 miles, 20% SOC remaining (started with 95%)
Charging time: 40 min

Third leg: 67.4 miles 16% SOC remaining (started with 96%)
Charging time: 28 min

Fourth leg: 39.6 miles 38% SOC remaining (started with 85%)
Charging time: 20 min

Last leg: 54.3 miles 17% SOC remaining (started with 90%)
Charging time: back on 110 volts, 7 ½ hours

Notes on DCFC:
Tapering starts at 70% SOC. Up to then charging at 17.5 kw according to Energica App.
70%-17.5 kw
75%-14.3 kw
80%-11.4 kw
85%-8.8 kw
90%-6.1 kw
These numbers will fluctuate some but will give you an idea of what the taper curve looks like. Did see charging on 4th leg at 90% at 10.3 kw. On a previous trip saw 7.1 kw charging at 95%. Cell balancing kicked in at 93% SOC, earlier than usual. Compared to the road trips I have taken on my Zero SR, a 20-30 minute charge time fly’s by when you are used to 1 ½- 2 hours.

For comparison:
With L2 charging (only 3kw) you can expect to gain 22-23% per hour of charging.
With 110 volt charging expect charging times in the 7-8 hour range.

[NEW2elec]

What was your average speed?
Would you say the bike could benefit from a touring windscreen?

[ultrarnr]

NEW2elec,

Average speed (this is from the GPS) for the legs are as follows:
Leg 1: 44 MPH
Leg 2: 45 MPH
Leg 3: 42 MPH
Leg 4: 45 MPH
Leg 5: 46 MPH

Just like the Zero SR I am sure a better fairing would improve range to some degree.

[NEW2elec]

Great job on the data collection, very through.
It seems like being able link charging stations to hit that 20% to 80% full charge rate is really the sweet spot.
So on the human side how was the ride? 
Better seat than Zero's?  This wouldn't be hard to achieve. 
Is it more stable at higher speeds? 
And the big question, how happy are you with the bike?

[MostlyBonkers]

Very interesting, thanks ultranar.

You managed to maintain quite a high average speed on each leg. How would you describe the roads? I imagine they were fast twisties with little traffic or towns to ride through?

I tend to average about 35mph on the roads here in Hertfordshire.  However, it's difficult to maintain high speeds on the twisties here. Lots of villages with 30mph speed limits.  Traffic and narrow roads don't help either. Still lots of fun to be had though.

I believe the Eva has liquid cooling for the battery as well as the motor and controller? That must help on a day trip like that. No worries about overheating the battery, just ride as hard as you like.  Definitely a big advantage for the Eva over an SR.

[ultrarnr]

NEW2elec,
I like the seat and the riding position better than the Zero. On the Zero I set back a bit on the seat and always seem to slide forward. I also like my feet back a bit more on the pegs but can't touch the rear brake when I do that. The Eva has a lot better riding position and being a full size motorcycle helps a lot to. At higher speeds the Eva is rock steady, what you get on most sport bikes.

Am I happy with the bike? Very much so. The Eva is an amazing motorcycle. First off, the Eva is a full size motorcycle and handles like one. The Zero is definitely a small bike and while we all adjust to that it has always left me wanting someone to build a full size electric motorcycle and Energica has done that. The power is absolutely amazing! I have a KTM 1290 SA which is a real beast and I am extremely confident the Eva will smoke it. The Eva just pulls harder. Energica has figured out regen. To the point where you rarely use your brakes when the regen is set on "high". So for the most part your throttle controls your acceleration and your braking. And the regen is very easy to modulate. The regen is also factored into the ABS system and your brake lights. DCFC vs L2. I am certainly not in the same league as Terry or Ben but have done several multi-day trips on my Zero, mainly to western NC. Spending 1 1/2 to 2 hours charging is not always much fun. After getting a nice taste of charging at CCS chargers where it takes 20-30 minutes it would be very difficult to go back to full time use of L2. Right now planning on riding my Eva out to western NC around 4th of July and while L2 charging won't be eliminated, the bulk of my charging will be with CCS. Style: My taste in motorcycle style is mainly for the standard, adventure type bikes. Road a cruiser once, didn't like it. Owned a sport bike and too much risk to license to enjoy. The Eva looks like a serious street fighter and has the power to back it up. It also hides the fact it is electric very well. People are surprised to find that out. Like the guy on the Indian who tried to keep up with me last Thursday on the way home from work. The Eva also has a level of performance to smoke most bikes out there. No question Zero has been around a lot longer than Energica. But there are areas that Energica is far ahead of Zero. What I don't like about the Eva: Range not as expected and needs a more powerful L2 charger. 3kw doesn't cut it.

MostlyBonkers,

The roads were a mix of about everything except twisties! Some rural back roads, small towns and a bit of interstate. The Eva's battery is air cooled and has vents through the middle of it. The motor is liquid cooled and so is the inverter. Gear box is to.

[mistasam]

Maaan that is such amazing info and insight!  Thanks for sharing your experience 

[nevetsyad]

Is that the speed, including charge times? Or did you take back roads everywhere?

NEW2elec,

Average speed (this is from the GPS) for the legs are as follows:
Leg 1: 44 MPH
Leg 2: 45 MPH
Leg 3: 42 MPH
Leg 4: 45 MPH
Leg 5: 46 MPH

Just like the Zero SR I am sure a better fairing would improve range to some degree.

[ultrarnr]

nevetsyad,  The average speed times I posted do not include charging time, only time traveling. As far as the route goes I just followed my GPS. Have seen roads that were mainly 55 MPH speed limit but if you have a few stop lights your average speed drops a lot. If I am going somewhere new I will calculate the average speed based on what Google Maps says and then determine whether or not the trip is possible based on previous trips.

[nevetsyad]

Gotcha, so, at 70MPH...MUCH less range. I wish Energica's could get a battery upgrade some year.

[ultrarnr]

At 70 MPH the max range is about 55 miles. Would not advise going farther. Last July I visited friends in Knoxville and they live about a mile from I-40. After 39.4 miles at 70 MPH I was down to 28% and estimated range left was 14 miles.