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Author Topic: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa  (Read 1561 times)

mistasam

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Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« on: August 21, 2018, 04:56:21 AM »

Just for giggles:

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Richard230

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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2018, 06:32:11 AM »

Interesting. The highway sure looks in good condition. Better than what we see in California. Of course there is a difference between the Zero and the Hayabusa. The Zero is still being made.   ;)
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2018, 06:33:07 AM »

The Zero is still being made.   ;)

OH SNAP!   ;D
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2018, 06:02:06 PM »

Nah, that can't be right...  Surely the Hyabusa is capable of a sub 3s 0-60mph time? The DSR should be capable of about 3.5s.

I don't think the Hyabusa rider used enough revs from a standing start.  The DSR would have to be smoked by a 2018 naked with traction and wheelie control. Something like the MT-10.  Maybe 1st gear is a bit long on the 'busa too.  The new Honda CBR1000R can smoke the Fireblade 0-60 with it's shorter gears and more torque, despite having less power.
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2018, 01:15:14 AM »

Haha yeah, it should be faster, but with gas bikes it always comes down to the rider.  My buddy wasn't good at launching, which is why he wanted to try the 10mph rolling start.  I don't think the busa could do a sub-3 second 0-60 though, unless it had launch control.
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2018, 05:47:19 AM »

Haha yeah, it should be faster, but with gas bikes it always comes down to the rider.  My buddy wasn't good at launching, which is why he wanted to try the 10mph rolling start.  I don't think the busa could do a sub-3 second 0-60 though, unless it had launch control.

Astonishing!  Thanks to you and your mate for posting that.

It's probably indicative of a real world scenario when up against all but the most crazy of hooligans at the lights.  I really love the effortless acceleration of my Zero and it's only a 2014DS!
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2018, 06:17:55 AM »

One of the guys I drag race with runs a Busa with stock engine, pipe and extended swingarm.  His 60' is about 1.4 seconds which is much quicker than a 3 second 0-60.  IIRC a 1 second 0-60 corresponds to a 60' of about 1.1 seconds.  I will look it up when I get back on a real computer.

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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2018, 03:38:59 AM »

I only took a Busa down the track once. Chain was slipping. Stock as far as I know / recall.
Ran 10.25 @135. 60' probably 1.6 to 1.8. Stock tire and swing arm. Pretty sure that the
0 to 60 was better than 3 seconds.
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2018, 08:03:48 PM »

Haha yeah, it should be faster, but with gas bikes it always comes down to the rider.  My buddy wasn't good at launching, which is why he wanted to try the 10mph rolling start.  I don't think the busa could do a sub-3 second 0-60 though, unless it had launch control.
To be fair, with electrics it comes down to the rider too...
I mean, look at all the demo ride crashes...  not to mention the number of electric riders that feel like they need ABS.
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2018, 09:29:08 AM »

Haha yeah, it should be faster, but with gas bikes it always comes down to the rider.  My buddy wasn't good at launching, which is why he wanted to try the 10mph rolling start.  I don't think the busa could do a sub-3 second 0-60 though, unless it had launch control.
To be fair, with electrics it comes down to the rider too...
I mean, look at all the demo ride crashes...  not to mention the number of electric riders that feel like they need ABS.

Good point and +1 to traction control for all levels of riding ability.  As long as you can switch it off when you want to.
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2018, 05:25:47 AM »

Interesting. The highway sure looks in good condition. Better than what we see in California. Of course there is a difference between the Zero and the Hayabusa. The Zero is still being made.   ;)

The Busa is still around in 2019.  It just hasn't been updated much since it got ABS, unless you count "bold new graphics".  I have a 2008 Busa and the torque is something else.  I really want to test ride an electric to see how it compares.
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2018, 05:31:48 AM »

Interesting. The highway sure looks in good condition. Better than what we see in California. Of course there is a difference between the Zero and the Hayabusa. The Zero is still being made.   ;)

The Busa is still around in 2019.  It just hasn't been updated much since it got ABS, unless you count "bold new graphics".  I have a 2008 Busa and the torque is something else.  I really want to test ride an electric to see how it compares.

No doubt you are right, but I am not sure that it is being imported into the U.S. market anymore.  ???  The Japanese tend to continue to manufacture older motorcycle models long after they stop selling them here.
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2018, 08:01:27 AM »

I have a 2008 Busa and the torque is something else.  I really want to test ride an electric to see how it compares.

Keep in mind that the Busa has gears, which do what (low) gears do: They trade off top speed for torque. In first gear, the Busa has considerably more torque than my 2014 Zero SR, though it probably doesn't have any more than, say, a Lightning.

The real difference with an electric is that it has torque EVERYWHERE, and ALWAYS. Sitting at a stop sign, at 0 rpm, you have 100% torque. Around town at 35 mph, 100% torque. Cruising at 70 on the freeway, 100% torque.  If the key is on, and your speed is below 85 mph or so, you have 100% torque. No throttle lag, no clutch to fan, no gearbox to kick down, just roll on and go. It's really not so much about monster torque, it's really about very good torque that's available instantaneously and always. It's the responsiveness of these bikes that really needs to be experienced.
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Re: Zero DSR vs. Suzuki Hayabusa
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2018, 08:54:21 PM »

I have a 2008 Busa and the torque is something else.  I really want to test ride an electric to see how it compares.

Keep in mind that the Busa has gears, which do what (low) gears do: They trade off top speed for torque. In first gear, the Busa has considerably more torque than my 2014 Zero SR, though it probably doesn't have any more than, say, a Lightning.

The real difference with an electric is that it has torque EVERYWHERE, and ALWAYS. Sitting at a stop sign, at 0 rpm, you have 100% torque. Around town at 35 mph, 100% torque. Cruising at 70 on the freeway, 100% torque.  If the key is on, and your speed is below 85 mph or so, you have 100% torque. No throttle lag, no clutch to fan, no gearbox to kick down, just roll on and go. It's really not so much about monster torque, it's really about very good torque that's available instantaneously and always. It's the responsiveness of these bikes that really needs to be experienced.

But there is such a thing as too much instant torque - especially when you are riding on a slippery surface.  ;)
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