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Total Members Voted: 27

[Ndm]

I think it would be helpful if you or EC could explain to people the process of pulling up to a station and plugging in, ie do you check the output and decide how many SC get plugged in or are they switched etc, clearing up the mystery behind having 3 SC and when and where to use them so that people aren't afraid to take the plunge, I have my own personal process and I find if I follow it I don't have issues (I'm using TSM 2500's so my process may differ)

[togo]

I think it would be helpful if you or EC could explain to people the process of pulling up to a station and plugging in, ie do you check the output and decide how many SC get plugged in or are they switched etc, clearing up the mystery behind having 3 SC and when and where to use them so that people aren't afraid to take the plunge, I have my own personal process and I find if I follow it I don't have issues (I'm using TSM 2500's so my process may differ)

I'm not ET or EC, but I'll jump in here with my observations.

The default 3-brick config is 2 SC on the first J-plug, 1 on the
second, and done.

You avoid the station or networks that can't do 6.6kw or have
poorly maintained networks (I'm looking at you Blink)

That's the usual

Here's my unusual config:

A patch panel, with a C20 inlet for each SCv2 brick. 

A pelican case locket to the bike with a collection of
cables and splitters that let me hook up a J-plug or
a T-plug or an RV outlet to any combination.

To do Dub-J charging, I also carry a Tesla T-to-J adapter
(thanks for the idea Zak)

My config can do Tesla to all three bricks, to three bricks
plus onboard (but taht would exceed 1C), to J+T, RV+J,
J+wall (e.g. many older chargepoints), a mind-boggling
number of possible combinations.  Based on BTR's recent
trip, I'm also carrying some C19/C20 extensions so I can
Dub-J across a disabilities space.

[Hansi]

Is Tesla=Mennekes? Do 3 SCs support 3-phase Mennekes via 1 Mennekes socket?

[togo]

No, Tesla is not Mennekes, but Tesla cars made for Europe do use the Mennekes plug, since that's the standard.

IIRC digniow destined for Europe are configured with one 3.3kw brick per mennekes phase, but you could wire two to a single phase.

Brandon, do you have a comment?

[benswing]

I agree with Togo. 


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[Erasmo]

Tesla is indeed Mennekes in Europe which means it can just tap in to the existing charging network and doesn't need special Tesla chargers everywhere.

[Doctorbass]

I plan using the sam eas Togo described ( The default 3-brick config is 2 SC on the first J-plug, 1 on the
second,) but will also carry  2+ 2 + 2 kw of Eltek  that on a flip of  switchs

The two first brick will be together on one 40A max J-plug
The third brick will be on a seperate 70A max  J-plug with other AC connections for  additional chargers (the Elteks)

Each eltek will have a switch that can add 2kW to the 3.3kW 3rd brick  for up to 9.3kW on the second J-plug

Total max charging power will be 15.9kW... onc ei will have solved the 1C max limit of my ZF13+ powertank

Overall, the charging power options will be:

1.5kW with single brick, the 3rd brick only connected to regular 120V ac
3.3kW with single brick, the 3rd brick only connected to one J-plug
6.6kW with dual brick, the 1 and 2 brick connected to one J-plug
9.9kW with triple brick, the 1 and 2 brick connected to one J-plug and 3rd connected to the second J-plug
11.9kW with triple brick, the 1 and 2 brick connected to one J-plug and 3rd + 1 eltek connected to the second J-plug
13.9kW with triple brick, the 1 and 2 brick connected to one J-plug and 3rd + 2 eltek connected to the second J-plug  ( safe for 1C limit)
15.9kW with triple brick, the 1 and 2 brick connected to one J-plug and 3rd + 2 eltek connected to the second J-plug  ( 1C limit unlocked)

Doc

[togo]

Awesome, doc, thanks for the details!

[Hansi]

BUMP.

Will 2019 be the year? I sure hope Zero realizes the importance of faster charging soon.

[Erasmo]

BUMP.

Will 2019 be the year? I sure hope Zero realizes the importance of faster charging soon.

Somebody is working on aftermarket Chademo again, and with the Diginows you should be able to go above 1C if you really want.

But indeed, Zero really needs to hop on the DC charging bandwagon.

[heroto]

Here's another vote for a DC charging option.
Here in Virginia, USA, more DC charging stations coming soon, provided by money from the VW diesel settlement. 

https://wtop.com/business-finance/2018/08/virginia-picks-evgo-for-statewide-electric-vehicle-charging-network/

[Doug S]

It does seem like CCS is becoming the consensus winner in the DC charging arena. But I just looked it up on wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Charging_System

and I'm worried about what I see for the voltage spec for CCS 2.0. It says 200-1000V. Sounds like our bikes are going to be locked out by minimum charging voltage again.