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[mguw]

Hi
I test drove a Tesla and acceleration is kicking in from the very beginning, unlike my Fx which is giving out torque more gradually.   It starts wheeling only at 20 km/h with a peak at 60-70.    This must be controlled by the ECU to avoid loopings at start,  as the motor itself has easily the torque to do so.

Nevertheless I could handle a little more acceleration in the low km/h.   Do you think there is a way for Zero to  ask for an insane mode?

A+ Marcel

[rayivers]

If you're OK with chain drive and 75mph top speed, 10/65 sprockets will give you 23% more torque - maybe not 'insane', but definitely better.

With my Zeros, I concentrate on what can be done right now, rather than what might or might not happen in the future.

Ray

[Doctorbass]

The actual parts that Zero use such as the Size 6 Sevcon controller  and 75-7R motor are used at their max power already i think. the Sevcon are rated up to 116V and 660A and they are used at those settings already.

So therre is no real locked mode in the Zero because the controller push max power already. you wold need to replace the actual controlelr for a Size 8 to get more current to the motor  and improove acceleration.

but in the DIY comunity it IS possible to install two controller to a single motor and get twice more power.. but there will be a thermal problem on the motor very fast.

My dream would be to take a tesla P90D and to remove the actual heavy battery  and replace for couple of high C rate Lipo and save maybe 1500 pounds on teh car.. and get 0-60 in about 2 sec !

Doc

Doc

[MichaelJohn]

Slightly off topic (I blame the thread title ) but a while back I posted about outrunning a P85D from a stoplight on my SR. I have always wondered if he was in INSANE mode or if I caught him by surprise. Well, I got my answer about a month ago. I came up against another P85D at a light and took off hard and left him. As we were approaching the next light he had gotten a little ahead of me. When the light turned green we were both still rolling and this time he was ready. He punched it just before I did and that behemoth just took off. I pinned the throttle and he was pulling on me ever so slightly but we both had to let of fast as we were in town. At the next light I pulled up next to him and asked him if he was in INSANE mode and he confirmed that he was. We had a short friendly chat then went our separate ways. So it appears that the P85D accelerates just a little harder than an SR though I would have liked to continue our race to a higher speed to see what would happen. It's certain that a P85D or P90D that has LUDICROUS mode would be one badass car.

[ha4ik]

The actual parts that Zero use such as the Size 6 Sevcon controller  and 75-7R motor are used at their max power already i think. the Sevcon are rated up to 116V and 660A and they are used at those settings already.

So therre is no real locked mode in the Zero because the controller push max power already. you wold need to replace the actual controlelr for a Size 8 to get more current to the motor  and improove acceleration.

Have you ever checked Zero app for mobile phone? If you try, you ll never tell such stupid things anymore.
Bike pushes power step by step - more speed - more power, it does not give all what he has from beginning. It is very safe, but I want more and I m sad of it ((((

[MichaelJohn]

The actual parts that Zero use such as the Size 6 Sevcon controller  and 75-7R motor are used at their max power already i think. the Sevcon are rated up to 116V and 660A and they are used at those settings already.

So therre is no real locked mode in the Zero because the controller push max power already. you wold need to replace the actual controlelr for a Size 8 to get more current to the motor  and improove acceleration.

Have you ever checked Zero app for mobile phone? If you try, you ll never tell such stupid things anymore.
Bike pushes power step by step - more speed - more power, it does not give all what he has from beginning. It is very safe, but I want more and I m sad of it ((((

So you come in with your very first post and accuse another member of saying stupid things? Way to start out on the right foot.

[benswing]

The actual parts that Zero use such as the Size 6 Sevcon controller  and 75-7R motor are used at their max power already i think. the Sevcon are rated up to 116V and 660A and they are used at those settings already.

So therre is no real locked mode in the Zero because the controller push max power already. you wold need to replace the actual controlelr for a Size 8 to get more current to the motor  and improove acceleration.

Have you ever checked Zero app for mobile phone? If you try, you ll never tell such stupid things anymore.
Bike pushes power step by step - more speed - more power, it does not give all what he has from beginning. It is very safe, but I want more and I m sad of it ((((

So many levels of wrong.


*In the original post, I wrote something that I wish I hadn't.  Apologies for that.

[mrwilsn]

What about using some super capacitors to keep the pack voltage from sagging on hard acceleration....would it improve 0-60 times?  Would it help with regen?

[ha4ik]

What about using some super capacitors to keep the pack voltage from sagging on hard acceleration....would it improve 0-60 times?  Would it help with regen?

Please announce supercapacitor volume in W*Hrs

[ha4ik]

The actual parts that Zero use such as the Size 6 Sevcon controller  and 75-7R motor are used at their max power already i think. the Sevcon are rated up to 116V and 660A and they are used at those settings already.

So therre is no real locked mode in the Zero because the controller push max power already. you wold need to replace the actual controlelr for a Size 8 to get more current to the motor  and improove acceleration.

Have you ever checked Zero app for mobile phone? If you try, you ll never tell such stupid things anymore.
Bike pushes power step by step - more speed - more power, it does not give all what he has from beginning. It is very safe, but I want more and I m sad of it ((((

Dumbest post yet.  So many levels of wrong.  Bahaha!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wanna see how full power right from the start looks like?

Check this (power is same to FX, Farasis battery):

! No longer available

[NoiseBoy]

The FX is 60kg lighter and geared a lot lower. Also that sounds like a brushed DC motor which has a much snappier power delivery.

[ha4ik]

You are wrong, power comes from Vectrix motor. Only big difference is that controller on that video gives full Amps right from the start.

[Cortezdtv]

Lol
My fx has waaaaaay More power than that.....

[Kocho]

Here is another video from the same bike. If you know Russian, the guy explains at the beginning that the voltage is 144V, the motor has 11KW nominal and 45KW peak, and puts out 400N/m torque at the wheel, accelerates at under 4s to 100km/h with max speed 120km/h with the current gear ratio.

The actual parts that Zero use such as the Size 6 Sevcon controller  and 75-7R motor are used at their max power already i think. the Sevcon are rated up to 116V and 660A and they are used at those settings already.

So therre is no real locked mode in the Zero because the controller push max power already. you wold need to replace the actual controlelr for a Size 8 to get more current to the motor  and improove acceleration.

Have you ever checked Zero app for mobile phone? If you try, you ll never tell such stupid things anymore.
Bike pushes power step by step - more speed - more power, it does not give all what he has from beginning. It is very safe, but I want more and I m sad of it ((((

Dumbest post yet.  So many levels of wrong.  Bahaha!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wanna see how full power right from the start looks like?

Check this (power is same to FX, Farasis battery):

! No longer available