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[GambitDash]

Hi folks -

Looking at picking up one of these (http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/) though they don't seem to sell in the US.  Not sure what to do about that yet   That said, what does everyone else use?  Is there a good spot to run a chain through (and, if that's the case, how much chain do I need?)  Or do you have any recommendations for a good disk lock?

Cheers,
--G

[Erasmo]

All depends on where you park it. Always try to keep it of the ground so it's less easy to break with a bolt cutter.

Just keep in mind that every chain or lock will only hold for a minute if the thief is skillfull. Qua disc lock I can recommend one that has at least an audio alarm on it.

[dkw12002]

I seldom leave any of my bikes out of sight for very long or park them in my locked and secure garage. If I go to Walmart or other shopping center, I park in the front where there are security cameras. I think you would have to attach the frame to something like a post  to keep it secure. It would be easy for 2 people or even one strong guy to lift your locked bike and stuff it into the side of his van. You could probably thread a large cable through those holes in the frame and attach it to a pole at home but I don't think you want to carry a heavy cable or chain around.

If I lived in an apartment, I would rent a first floor apartment where I could put it inside at night if I only had one Zero. There's nothing to leak out on the floor or smell bad.

[Justin Andrews]

Or do you have any recommendations for a good disk lock?

Yes, don't put it on your front wheel. They are not known as somersault locks for no reason...

[Chocula]

Or do you have any recommendations for a good disk lock?

Yes, don't put it on your front wheel. They are not known as somersault locks for no reason...

I was hoping for some video on "somersault locks" as I think it would be pretty impressive to get your bike to actually endo because of one of these.  Unfortunately, a quick search on YouTube and one on Google provided no information on this term.  I have heard of people damaging their front fender because they forgot to remove the lock, but you only get part of a wheel rotation before the bike stops moving.

I have always used a small Kryptonite U-Lock on my ICE bikes and have a Roadlok for my electric.  I always use them (even in my garage) and removing the lock is part of my startup routine.  I use them on the front wheel because that is where they fit the best and are the most visible.  I like the Roadlok better because it is more convenient and only allows the wheel to move a few inches, unless I move the bike a little to set the pin in one of the holes, in which case the wheel no longer moves at all.  This also makes a nice parking brake on the electric which doesn't have the engine compression to hold the bike in place.

Locks and alarms are a deterrent in that they take time to defeat, but they are useless if they are not convenient enough to be used.  The super cheap ones can be snapped off quickly so I would avoid those.  Most mid-range to high end u-locks are faster to grind than break, with the higher end required to grind both sides.  In the end, they can all be defeated in just a few minutes with the right tools.

Get the most secure system that you are willing to carry and use every time, and park in the safest locations you can.

Chocula

[Justin Andrews]

Its what we call them round these parts to remind ourselves not to try to ride away with one still on your wheel, and to mock our friends who manage to do such...

[KrazyEd]

I have seen it happen, but, only with TRUE squids.
Someone starts up their bike, talking, not paying
attention, then, wheelies away from the stop.
I would have to think that it takes practice, but ....
MUCH easier to do an a Zero than an ICE bike.
While I didn't find any endos on youtube, if you
do a search for rotor lock and fail, you will see
a few people forgetting that it is on, and, fall as
they attempt to pull away.

[ctrlburn]

In a well lit, staffed parking garage with cameras I run a heavy bicycle lock through my rear wheel to a much larger pipe.
To separate the "impulse theft" from the "concerted effort theft" while I am at work.
http://www.masterlock.com/personal-use/product/8119DPF
It stores wrapped in front of the license plate.

[Erasmo]

TIL it is a thing to lock your grill.