ElectricMotorcycleForum.com

  • November 25, 2024, 03:48:28 AM
  • Welcome, Guest
Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Electric Motorcycle Forum is live!

Pages: [1]

Author Topic: 2014 quick charger  (Read 1854 times)

arno

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 10
    • View Profile
2014 quick charger
« on: May 28, 2014, 10:31:28 PM »

Hello all,

i have a question regarding the optional Delta-Q Quickcharger.
I assume, that they are all simply switched in parallel by the y-cables from zero.
How does every charger know the amount of current or voltage to deliver ?
Or are they decoupled with diodes or something like that ?
Logged

protomech

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1996
    • View Profile
    • ProtoBlog
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2014, 11:21:28 PM »

The chargers AFAIK operate independently in parallel, and use the battery voltage as an input to determine constant current or constant voltage they deliver.
Logged
1999 Honda VFR800i | 2014 Zero SR
Check out who's near you on frodus's EV owner map!
http://protomech.wordpress.com/

BSDThw

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 647
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2014, 05:49:09 PM »

I can only speak for the 2012 Version of the Delta-q but I believe technology is the same.

It is current limited therefore the voltage will be automatically rise with the battery voltage. If it reach the end-voltage the Delta-q reduce the current.
As much as I saw the Delta-q was never disabled it runs his hibernation algorithm -
... Once fully charged, the
     charger will check the status of the power pack     
     once every 72 hours to ensure that it maintains a
     full charge. When fully charged, a green light will
     illuminate on the charger. Should the charger not...

A Delta-q has an enable port (2012 for sure) that allows the BMS to shut off the Qelta-q.
e.g. if the cells are out of  balance it could happen the "current-reduce-value -> Voltage" is not reached but one cell reach the endvoltage and would start a thermal runaway :o

Arno darf ich Dich fragen was Du beruflich machst?

Logged
Air Drag Sucks - 2012 Zero DS ZF9 - 2013 Zero FX ZF5.7

Lamac

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2014, 11:19:37 PM »

Hello Arno,

i am thinking to build or better retrofit a 3,3kW Version....

This one i will order -->

http://www.ies-synergy.com/en/chargers/onboard-sealed-chargers/elips-3300w

Still investigating whats on the market.




But if anyone is interested i found a source, they shall feet to the ZEROS.

 http://www.ev-power.eu/Chargers-TC-1-5-kW/

there are Models for 28S


greetings  :)

Lamac
« Last Edit: June 02, 2014, 11:29:22 PM by Lamac »
Logged
2014 SR
2014 S

protomech

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1996
    • View Profile
    • ProtoBlog
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 01:07:06 AM »

The ELIPS charger looks really nice; it's about as heavy as and a little smaller than a lower-power elcon 2500.

Do you have a price, or voltage and current spec for the charger?
Logged
1999 Honda VFR800i | 2014 Zero SR
Check out who's near you on frodus's EV owner map!
http://protomech.wordpress.com/

Lamac

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 01:16:12 AM »

Hello protomech

Flexible and easy to integrate:

Universal input voltage: 85V-265V
Output voltage range: 80V to 520V
Standalone or managed via CANBUS (slave mode)


if 100VDC ... 33 Ampere

regards

Lamac


Logged
2014 SR
2014 S

dc5dd

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2014, 04:15:00 AM »

Hello protomech

Flexible and easy to integrate:

Universal input voltage: 85V-265V
Output voltage range: 80V to 520V
Standalone or managed via CANBUS (slave mode)


if 100VDC ... 33 Ampere

regards

Lamac

I too am interested in the IES ELIPS.  Any more info than the website such as a specification sheet and pricing?
Logged

benswing

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1146
  • 2016 Zero SR Cross Country Biker, www.Benswing.com
    • View Profile
    • Follow my electric motorcycle adventures on Facebook
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2014, 10:48:29 AM »

That looks awesome!  Smaller, more powerful & lighter than the Elcons. 

Wonder what the price is?
Logged
First to 48 states all electric!
 - Long Range Electric Biker - https://www.facebook.com/BenRidesElectric/
 - Video/photo/articles about 4 corners tour: http://www.benswing.com
 - Crossed the USA in 2013 on a 2012 Zero S with the Ride the Future Tour, see the movie at https://vimeo.com/169002549

dc5dd

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2014, 01:13:29 PM »

That looks awesome!  Smaller, more powerful & lighter than the Elcons. 

Wonder what the price is?

Not only that but it has a IP rating of 66 :D
Logged

protomech

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1996
    • View Profile
    • ProtoBlog
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2014, 02:30:57 AM »

Logged
1999 Honda VFR800i | 2014 Zero SR
Check out who's near you on frodus's EV owner map!
http://protomech.wordpress.com/

dc5dd

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 quick charger
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2014, 07:55:08 AM »

Geez now I ready wish I had more info and pricing ::).  I've contacted IES for more info hope they respond.
Logged
Pages: [1]