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Oilcan

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Re: Quick DSR/X review
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2023, 08:25:50 AM »

I don’t know what happens at 1% but I have ridden mine down to 6% and nothing happened. Performed normally.
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Re: Quick DSR/X review
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2023, 09:05:06 AM »

I don’t know what happens at 1% but I have ridden mine down to 6% and nothing happened. Performed normally.
Yeah, I noticed no difference when I was down at 10% SOC. Unlike Energica, there are no warnings that the SOC is getting low. Or if there is, I have not yet seen it.


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Re: Quick DSR/X review
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2023, 03:42:35 PM »

On the SR/F performance drops off noticeably every 20% or so SOC. Which might be purely psychosomatic, it could be dead linear but you tend to notice the nice round figures I suppose. At under 20% giving full throttle in sport mode doesn't give any more than street mode and it struggles to get over 70mph. I tend to stick to street mode to avoid the inconsistency.

Lowest SOC I've had is 15% or so, after 100 miles of relatively normal riding (no motorways). The much-ridiculed YammieNoob took one down to 0% and managed 85 miles out of it before it went into a drastic limp mode for a couple of miles before completely conking out.

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Re: Quick DSR/X review
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2023, 06:08:31 PM »

I don't ride like a hooligan (no offense to anyone who does), but I honestly have never been able to discern any difference in performance at different SOC. I've only been down to 3%, but I've heard people say that you can get another 10 miles at 0%, though I find that a bit hard to believe myself.
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Re: Quick DSR/X review
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2023, 11:34:09 PM »

On the SR/F performance drops off noticeably every 20% or so SOC. Which might be purely psychosomatic, it could be dead linear but you tend to notice the nice round figures I suppose. At under 20% giving full throttle in sport mode doesn't give any more than street mode and it struggles to get over 70mph. I tend to stick to street mode to avoid the inconsistency.

Lowest SOC I've had is 15% or so, after 100 miles of relatively normal riding (no motorways). The much-ridiculed YammieNoob took one down to 0% and managed 85 miles out of it before it went into a drastic limp mode for a couple of miles before completely conking out.

Cas :)
That could explain why I notice no difference. I have yet to even try out the sport mode. The normal standard / street modes have more power & torque than I will ever want.


No need to ever speed on an electric bike, if any charge stops are needed.   We make better times by riding slower. This is even true with so-called fast charging on an Energica, as well as with 12KW charging on Zeros.


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Re: Quick DSR/X review
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2023, 08:53:36 PM »

The acceleration on the SR/F in Sport is really pretty breathtaking though. Makes overtakes quite entertaining, but it sort of doesn't have the lovely throttle response in Street at small openings. The DSR/X isn't nearly so scary fast though - it seems to be more linear. Wonder if anyone's done any standing quarters yet.

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Re: Quick DSR/X review
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2023, 09:42:00 PM »

I don't ride like a hooligan (no offense to anyone who does), but I honestly have never been able to discern any difference in performance at different SOC. I've only been down to 3%, but I've heard people say that you can get another 10 miles at 0%, though I find that a bit hard to believe myself.
The rumors are true. On my 2017 SR I've done several miles at freeway speeds on US-101 in SF at 0% and then another several miles across the city at 15 MPH in the bike lane before it finally conked out on me two blocks from home. The freeway portion was scary, since the wild-guess-o-meter took me from a comfortable but close-shave SoC when I entered the Bay Bridge to 0% before I hit Treasure Island, but luckily for me the traffic was characteristically bad and my rapidly declining top speed matched the ~30 MPH average speed of traffic. I believe that trip came out to 77 mostly-highway miles on a 13.0 kWh nominal battery with ~18% degradation, which is much higher than I've ever managed on my Energica SS9 13.4. I think the FST bikes don't let you get away with quite that much abuse, but the S-platform bikes really used to let you treat the battery like a rented mule.
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Re: Quick DSR/X review
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2023, 02:34:24 AM »

The acceleration on the SR/F in Sport is really pretty breathtaking though. Makes overtakes quite entertaining, but it sort of doesn't have the lovely throttle response in Street at small openings. The DSR/X isn't nearly so scary fast though - it seems to be more linear. Wonder if anyone's done any standing quarters yet.

Cas :)
I have done a test ride on a SR/F in the sport mode, just after the bikes came out. It was very impressive, but that type of performance is not anything I look for.  I am more of a slow touring rider, which means I can get reasonable ranges on my electric bikes.


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