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[lolachampcar]

nick,
I too defend the bike
I was more interested in sharing ideas for what has worked as I know the brakes can be better.  That being said, they will probably pry the bike from my cold dead fingers as, unless Zero out does themselves yet again, I'm not giving it up.

[Lipo423]

Yes, he's my neighbor...We both live in Seva (Barcelona). This area & surroundings is full of very professional riders (I moved to this little town 9 years ago expecting to become a better rider -just being closer to them- but I dit not work out 
People like Alex, Sito Pons, Laia Sanz, Isidre Esteve, Dani Pedrosa, Marc Marquez, Toni Bou...etc...live very close to where I live (I can see Alex on regular bases, and crossed with Dani a few times while he was training in his road bike (I also ride one). Lorenzo lives (sometimes) in Palma de Mallorca - A good place to visit too!!

In Catalunya there is a lot of passion for motorbikes, and the world around them.
No problem. Nick, if you ever come to Barcelona let's have a beer together and talk about bikes (this is an invitation)

[nicktulloh]

Yes, he's my neighbor...We both live in Seva (Barcelona). This area & surroundings is full of very professional riders (I moved to this little town 9 years ago expecting to become a better rider -just being closer to them- but I dit not work out 
People like Alex, Sito Pons, Laia Sanz, Isidre Esteve, Dani Pedrosa, Marc Marquez, Toni Bou...etc...live very close to where I live (I can see Alex on regular bases, and crossed with Dani a few times while he was training in his road bike (I also ride one). Lorenzo lives (sometimes) in Palma de Mallorca - A good place to visit too!!

In Catalunya there is a lot of passion for motorbikes, and the world around them.
No problem. Nick, if you ever come to Barcelona let's have a beer together and talk about bikes (this is an invitation)

There must be something in the water in Spain. World class riders seem to grow there like weeds.

The first one is on me. Likewise, if you ever come to this side of the pond. New England is beautiful in the autumn. Lots of great roads.

I think my next trip home (I'm from Newcastle) will be in the spring. I prefer the Manx to the TT but I want to see the electric bikes on the mountain.

[Lipo423]

Yep, it must be the water...I just need to find the bloody spring where all of these guys drink!!! 
Thanks Nick, Note taken...(I travelled a lot to the west coast, and very little to the East...so, who knows...), I also travelled to Grantham, and  a few years ago...probably Newcastle is a nicer place...
Take care.

[DesignerDan]

Has anyone tried ceramic pads? I want to try them since they are supposed to be really quiet but I couldn't find any direct replacements.

[Lipo423]

I really question these pads available for the std. 2012 brake caliper, but in the unexpected event you would find them, you will definitely have to change the std. rotor also.
And yes, they are very quiet (pure ceramic)

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

Brake squeal also came up for me a bit while breaking the bike in. Some progressive squeezing to ensure good pad seating took care of it for me, although I think the rear disc makes a little noise while walking the bike in and out of a parking slot. I'm okay with the stopping power on the 2013 DS, just needed them to be quiet so I wouldn't hesitate.

Well, that didn't really improve things over the long term. I'll try to apply some appropriate grease to the rotor to keep the noise down, or just give up and switch brake pads later.

[Richard230]

I don't think grease is what you want to apply to your rotor, unless you want your 2013 brakes to function like the 2012 brakes.