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[chisquare]

From a reliable source I got the following information on accessing the engineering screen, aka debug screen, on the Experia:

menu
diagnostic
left, left, left
right, right, right
left
right
left
right

A bit slimmed down from the Ribelle/SS9 version but the origin is very obvious .

Couldn't test it myself as I don't own or have access to an Experia. Given that the screen is read only, I don't expect any potential harm from its use - aside from looking at it too closely while driving (yes that is possible). Have fun, but of course, as always in such cases: Use at your own risk.

[Specter]

there is a LOT of info on that screen, in very small font.  I don't see any way you could realistically read it while driving.  Just the motion alone on the road you would be very challenged to keep focused.  We won't even get into the extreme safety hazard this would be.  Having a camera set up now might be a great idea, you can see things happen in real time ... when you get back home and watch the movie   .  Downloading the logs though is a better way to do that though, anyways, kind of wish some of the stuff they'd make .. say a 4th screen and put some of that info on all the bikes.  Things like, pack voltage, KW in and out that is resettable, temperatures of motor, inverter, batteries, water.. although being water cooled, those temps rarely really get very high. 

Aaron

[Motoproponent]

Couldn't test it myself as I don't own or have access to an Experia. Given that the screen is read only, I don't expect any potential harm from its use - aside from looking at it too closely while driving (yes that is possible). Have fun, but of course, as always in such cases: Use at your own risk.

I was so ready to call you a liar as the other "Konami Code" didn't work with my Experia, but this one works.

By golly, it's real. No idea if the info listed on the engineering screen is correct, but it is, in fact, there on the Experia.

[smithy]

Couldn't test it myself as I don't own or have access to an Experia. Given that the screen is read only, I don't expect any potential harm from its use - aside from looking at it too closely while driving (yes that is possible). Have fun, but of course, as always in such cases: Use at your own risk.

I was so ready to call you a liar as the other "Konami Code" didn't work with my Experia, but this one works.

By golly, it's real. No idea if the info listed on the engineering screen is correct, but it is, in fact, there on the Experia.

Yes it is indeed accessible on the Experias, has been since they were released...I have known this since getting my Experia in Feb of '23.... but was "sworn to secrecy" by my dealer under threat of a public stoning. 

Smithy.

[Pard]

Couldn't test it myself as I don't own or have access to an Experia. Given that the screen is read only, I don't expect any potential harm from its use - aside from looking at it too closely while driving (yes that is possible). Have fun, but of course, as always in such cases: Use at your own risk.

I was so ready to call you a liar as the other "Konami Code" didn't work with my Experia, but this one works.

By golly, it's real. No idea if the info listed on the engineering screen is correct, but it is, in fact, there on the Experia.

Yes it is indeed accessible on the Experias, has been since they were released...I have known this since getting my Experia in Feb or 23.... but was "sworn to secrecy" by my dealer under threat of a public stoning. 

Smithy.

Why would they want something useful to be a secret?  What is the harm of the owner knowing about it?

[smithy]

Couldn't test it myself as I don't own or have access to an Experia. Given that the screen is read only, I don't expect any potential harm from its use - aside from looking at it too closely while driving (yes that is possible). Have fun, but of course, as always in such cases: Use at your own risk.

I was so ready to call you a liar as the other "Konami Code" didn't work with my Experia, but this one works.

By golly, it's real. No idea if the info listed on the engineering screen is correct, but it is, in fact, there on the Experia.

Yes it is indeed accessible on the Experias, has been since they were released...I have known this since getting my Experia in Feb or 23.... but was "sworn to secrecy" by my dealer under threat of a public stoning. 

Smithy.

Why would they want something useful to be a secret?  What is the harm of the owner knowing about it?

I agree with you, I see no harm in having it, you can hurt anything from the diagnostic menu, it's just information...As I understand it....it's for Energica workshop diagnostic use.

Smithy.

[Motoproponent]

I have no idea what the numbers mean or what they tell me about the bike, other than knowing the high and low voltage variance of the cells. My understanding is that the lower the variance the better balanced the cells are, and that can be an indicator of overall battery pack health.

[Specter]

It's not so much harm that you know it, but people who don't have a clue what it is, or how to read it, now all of the sudden have 500 questions, oh this says this, this did that, my bike is broke fix it !!!

Most normal people wont have a clue what much of it means anyways so why bury them in gobbelty gook they don't need?  Those who DO know what it means or have a clue how to interpret it, already  have figured out how to get at it

sometimes more isn't better it just causes un necessary grief when people start chasing ghosts and boogey men.

Aaron

[smithy]

It's not so much harm that you know it, but people who don't have a clue what it is, or how to read it, now all of the sudden have 500 questions, oh this says this, this did that, my bike is broke fix it !!!

Most normal people wont have a clue what much of it means anyways so why bury them in gobbelty gook they don't need?  Those who DO know what it means or have a clue how to interpret it, already  have figured out how to get at it

sometimes more isn't better it just causes un necessary grief when people start chasing ghosts and boogey men.

Aaron

My dealer doesn't have access to the Energica suite server any more so they can't really help, even if they wanted to. I suspect it's the same for most dealers world-wide.

Smithy.

[Specter]

Once all that bankruptcy process is all complete I am sure they will be given access back.  Right now, all of that stuff, is considered intellectual property, in the bankruptcy courts, so has to be protected, hence they take it down so it can't be hacked, damaged, destroyed etc by angry people etc because it IS something that carries a monetary value to it.

This is exactly the same reason that NO they can NOT tell you what type of cells they use in their battery packs, etc etc and stuff like that, it's intellectual property of the company and has a monetary value.  By telling you that, that item, is no longer 'property of' the company it's gen public knowledge now, so that just harmed the company by giving away for free, something that had value, hence cheating any creditors, and any potential buyers.  This is why it is ILLEGAL for anyone who works for or is involved with anything of the company or this procedure and knows, to tell you this info.

Hopefully in a few weeks, the entities involved, have things worked out and they let them get back to business as usual, or do the auction, or whatever to go from there.  It takes time, so we all wait.

Aaron

[smithy]

Once all that bankruptcy process is all complete I am sure they will be given access back.  Right now, all of that stuff, is considered intellectual property, in the bankruptcy courts, so has to be protected, hence they take it down so it can't be hacked, damaged, destroyed etc by angry people etc because it IS something that carries a monetary value to it.

This is exactly the same reason that NO they can NOT tell you what type of cells they use in their battery packs, etc etc and stuff like that, it's intellectual property of the company and has a monetary value.  By telling you that, that item, is no longer 'property of' the company it's gen public knowledge now, so that just harmed the company by giving away for free, something that had value, hence cheating any creditors, and any potential buyers.  This is why it is ILLEGAL for anyone who works for or is involved with anything of the company or this procedure and knows, to tell you this info.

Hopefully in a few weeks, the entities involved, have things worked out and they let them get back to business as usual, or do the auction, or whatever to go from there.  It takes time, so we all wait.

Aaron

Not real good for Energica bike owners who need servicing, spares or repairs now... and can't get anything done by their local dealer....and are basically left with what is essentially a dead bike for the foreseeable future. What happens to them I wonder..??

Smithy.

[Specter]

It's not energica's call, it's the law.  If they tell you this info or give it away or open it up, the person doing it could be fined / put in prison etc.

Now if YOU wanted to open up your bike and divulge what you found that would be one thing, but if you work for/with them then its violating the law, because that knowledge has value, and until the bankruptcy is processed, intentionally harming the value, which may potentially be needed to pay back investors, which would possibly include you as well, not a good thing.

Also, the US dealers ARE open, and Energica is shipping the parts they currently have and doing what they can in the mean time.  Again, they are being limited by what they can do, are allowed to do, because of the proceedings.  If you need something call the US office.  Ive been in touch with them already concerning my bike which they currently have, so yes, they ARE open.

Aaron

[Beauceron]

Lucky US, in Europe / Germany no one shipps any thing. They are simply unreachable on any means...