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princec

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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2024, 07:23:40 PM »

Yep, that's one of them. There's also that peculiar regulation for rear mudguard coverage which is why that stupid bit of non-functional plastic was stuck on BMW shafties for years. And by and large the design has to cater for the lowest common denominator for significant international markets, so in practice, whatever satisfies both European and US markets with only one engineering effort.

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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2024, 07:52:12 PM »

Also, TBH, it's a handy place to mount a mudguard since the modern trend towards deleting most of the rear end leaves you getting splattered by the tyre in the wet.
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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #77 on: August 24, 2024, 12:29:12 AM »

A few years ago I was told by a cop that there was a DOT regulation that required that the license plate and tail/brake light must be located behind the rear tire. That was the first time I had heard of that regulation, but maybe it was mostly aimed at automobile design and motorcycles got stuck with that rule, too.  ???

I think it's because putting it any farther forward means the plate winds up obscured by dirt before terribly long
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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #78 on: August 25, 2024, 06:45:58 PM »

Motorcycle.com gets around to reviewing the Can-Am electric motorcycles and publishes their prices in this recent article: https://www.motorcycle.com/bikes/new-model-preview/2025-can-am-origin-and-pulse-electric-motorcycles-first-look-44606260
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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #79 on: August 25, 2024, 07:26:27 PM »

Unfortunately, they do not have the money I bet, but NOW that the worlds attention is firmly looking at E bikes, especially with the buzz from a company that is well known as a good company,  this would be prime time for Energica and maybe even some of the others to jump on this bandwagon and get their name shown as well.  'for those who are really serious about their cycling, Energica has -  A,B,C' to take you to an entirely new level of excitement, bla bla type of thing.  The testosterone is already flowing, let Energica take you to the top!  .. type ad's.     Ok, old song reference, boomerish, I get it, but use it to push the Experia, or the SS9 for the truly retro emersion for the boomers who want an E bike to cruise in comfort on.  Hint at the Ribelle / EGO for those 'kids' who are not old grandpaws yet  ;D

When you look at the turmoil that is currently going on with Energica's parent co, THIS is their golden goose opportunity to recover from that, stand out as their OWN company, and get a new start on it all.  In a few months, given the outcome of the US elections, if the planet is not a 50k degrees kelvin cinderblock by then, this is a perfect segue into the 'New World' waiting for you!

Hey   @Demoni  push this to your advertising geeks, give me a free bike after you sold your 1000th one in the US heh  8)  I'll even let you ride it now and then  ;D    We'll even break off 10 percent to pay Morgan, the 'Big Guy' too !

-- on the license plate thing.. that makes sense, any mud and crud getting flung off the bike wheels, if the plate is sticking out past the tire, anything flung gets stuck the back of the plate, NOT the front where the numbers are and obscuring them.

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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #80 on: August 25, 2024, 07:27:28 PM »

I am guessing they measure these tft screens on a diagonal.
USA solo seat, dual seat buys seperate, wonder if the dealer will swap one for the other?
Most if not all of the pictures seem to be the $2000 extra 73 variant.
The rake and trail are different origion vs pulse
The total load is different pretty much the same as the difference in the curb weight.
I am guessing motorcycle.com did not rate a test ride.
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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #81 on: August 25, 2024, 09:35:35 PM »

you will find that pretty much ANY screen,  television, computer, tft, whatever, they always measure them on the diagonal.  It makes them sound bigger, especially when you consider the rectangular screens today, ie the theatre mode .vs. the standard 4x3 they used to be.   Resolution, refresh rate, and clock freq / bandwidth are also important factors many overlook when buying stuff like that.

Do you want a pencil or a beercan?  8)

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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2024, 10:50:41 AM »

Seems some were misunderstanding my idea.  That being that there would still be a plastic fender behind and below the combined light/license plate holder, to keep mud and such off the plate.  Without that 1kg or more plate holder and turn signals hanging off the end of the fender, it could be a much lighter & sleeker fender design  ...but regardless, it seems it's mandated to be behind the wheel so we'll continue seeing this awkward design for some time...

Advrider posted a ride review of the Pulse and Origin, including a blurb in the conclusion about the intended audience Can-Am is going for:

https://www.advrider.com/can-am-returns-with-electric-motorcycle-models-we-go-for-a-ride/
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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2024, 08:47:15 PM »

many states also insist the plate have a light on it as well so you can see it at night, so there's that as well.  Need something to hold the light bulb too right?

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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2024, 11:43:06 PM »

Yep, I literally described a license plate holder built into the rear of the seat, surrounded by an led brake light and turn signals, and a slim fender behind & below it in my original post with the idea.   So it needs an illumination led too. We're going in circles on an idea that was shown to be impossible due to regulations.  Time to move on...
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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #85 on: September 25, 2024, 07:27:18 PM »

Motorcycle.com rides and then reviews the 2025 Can-Am Pulse and Origin: https://www.motorcycle.com/bikes/manufacturer/brp/2025-can-am-pulse-origin-review-first-ride-44608162
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Re: Can-Am developing electric motorcycles?
« Reply #86 on: September 26, 2024, 04:06:53 AM »

Can-Am has the right idea here with the Origin. Clever design and seems well put together. The Pulse is too close in price to the likes of the S2 Del Mar / Mulholland and Zero SR given its lesser capabilities, but the Origin seems like a credible dual sport. Can-Am seems to understand that the technology isn’t quite ready for e-motos to compete on price and range with gassers but that they need real-world experience when the time comes. The range wouldn’t be enough for my day rides even if I had room for 2 bikes, but for people who truck their bikes to the trail, it should suffice. If they could figure out how to shove a 50cc range-extender and 1+ gallon tank into that powertrain, its range could be 150+ miles.
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