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[Oilcan]

I watch a YouTube video of someone who attended the battery equipment manufacturer trade show in Detroit. This trade show had exhibitors that sold the equipment to the people that make batteries in high volume for not only the EV market but consumer electronics as well. He ask them if anyone was selling equipment to make solid state batteries and could not find a single supplier. So if no one is selling the equipment to make solid state batteries in volume it may be a long time before we see them.

[Specter]

Not sure if it's considered solid state or not but there's a company out there selling supercap batteries, while a bit heavy can handle hundreds of amps and have a life cycle of a million cycles they claim.

It'll be interesting for sure to see what comes out over the next few years.

We supposedly have a sodium tech coming out soon,  which would kind of seem obvious, its just a ladder step up the periodic chain, so when's the potassium battery coming?

We have flow batteries and super caps and carbon nano something batteries, and some sort of palladium reduc thingie supposedly in the works.

Time will tell.

Aaron

[Richard230]

Not sure if it's considered solid state or not but there's a company out there selling supercap batteries, while a bit heavy can handle hundreds of amps and have a life cycle of a million cycles they claim.

It'll be interesting for sure to see what comes out over the next few years.

We supposedly have a sodium tech coming out soon,  which would kind of seem obvious, its just a ladder step up the periodic chain, so when's the potassium battery coming?

We have flow batteries and super caps and carbon nano something batteries, and some sort of palladium reduc thingie supposedly in the works.

Time will tell.

Aaron

What we don't have are mass production of those new types of batteries for the consumer market and companies spending billions of dollars building new factories to make them. 

[princec]

Not sure if it's considered solid state or not but there's a company out there selling supercap batteries, while a bit heavy can handle hundreds of amps and have a life cycle of a million cycles they claim.

It'll be interesting for sure to see what comes out over the next few years.

We supposedly have a sodium tech coming out soon,  which would kind of seem obvious, its just a ladder step up the periodic chain, so when's the potassium battery coming?

We have flow batteries and super caps and carbon nano something batteries, and some sort of palladium reduc thingie supposedly in the works.

Time will tell.

Aaron

Potassium probably never, it's too heavy. The whole thing about lithium was you got the most volts for your size and weight and the tiny ions could move through the electrolyte easily. Sodium's not quite as good as it's rather larger and heavier but it makes up for it by being orders of magnitude cheaper.

[Stonewolf]

They don't even have to be L3 chargers, just a decent L2 would do,hence no transformer needed, just hook it right to your mains, Breaker it at 30 to 50 amps, run it on 6 ga to 2 ga wire and you are golden.

Aaron

As long as it's a captive cable, I'm on a motorbike I don't have the space luggage capacity to be trucking around the same cable literally every EV uses for charging anyway.

[Specter]

most every charger I see has a cable on it.  The J plugs.  That is what makes them chargers
Otherwise it's just a plug, not a charger!

But agreed on the lugging a cable around.  I have a 'charging kit' I put together with a charger, 50 feet of 12 ga flat cord, and a few pigtails to jack into pretty much every plug available.  (5 total) so no matter where I am at, if there is an outlet, I can get the juice.
Overall it weighs probably 12 or so Lbs, 

Agreed, something we generally do NOT want to be lugging around, as it takes up a full bag's capacity.

Aaron

[DonTom]

As long as it's a captive cable, I'm on a motorbike I don't have the space luggage capacity to be trucking around the same cable literally every EV uses for charging anyway.

I modified one the make it small enough to carry on a bike, or in a backpack or whatever.


See my thread here.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Specter]

Most the chargers have a HUGE plastic container for the damned electronics to communicate with the car.  Now the ones that show you KW/hr,  power used, elapsed and all the bells and whistles I can see but if all you want is JUST a simple interface to turn the damned power on to charge your car, that actual part really is just a small chip /circuit board really.  You could really about put one inline on the cord, and it'd fit easily in the head of the cord w/o the HUGE box inbetween the plug and cable.

I am in the process of making a super compact cable to try an experiment.  The J plug side, I am going to just pot the pins in some acrylic, at the proper spacing to fit into the plug side, it'll be a small flat puck with the pins sitting out eseentially.  (since the Ribelle will never take more than 15 amps, I don't need HUGE honking cables coming out of it, 12 ga is perfect for power, 16  for signal).  You can use heat shrink to make an insulating jacket for cables, so I will run them flat, and shrink them like a flat cable so they fit very easily under the seat of the bike and all it will have is a small female plug head right there.

Now all I need is 12 GA extension cord wire to bring up to 15 amps to the bike, (yes technically I could get away with 14 ga but I want the little safety overhead), with a few pigtail heads to form fit the plug and I can charge anywhere, without having to lift the seat.

The seat lift is concerning to me because, what if your charging at a station somewhere with the seat up and it starts raining into your stuff?  I think that would be a BAD day, this way, you can charge in the drizzle / light rain and your bikes sensitive power block is still protected.

TBH I don't understand why ALL manu's just don't put the little chip ON their bike and it's all built in.   For L1 or L2 charging, which is mains charging, you just plug a damned cord into the bike and the rest is handled BY the bike, like it is now. Once the warranty is gone off my bike I plan on doing just this. It'll easily fit in the area under the seat where the charger is tucked in at.

Aaron

[DonTom]

3K miles on one charge! More EV battery vaporware here!


-Don-  Reno, NV