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Richard230

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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2023, 04:06:16 AM »

I bought my model year 1999 Saturn car in July 1998. I think the model year is flexible depending upon what the company's marketing department calls it.   ???
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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2023, 04:16:18 AM »

I bought my model year 1999 Saturn car in July 1998. I think the model year is flexible depending upon what the company's marketing department calls it.   ???
But who assigns the VIN numbers? The VIN number always shows the model year.


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Richard230

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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2023, 05:55:47 AM »

I bought my model year 1999 Saturn car in July 1998. I think the model year is flexible depending upon what the company's marketing department calls it.   ???
But who assigns the VIN numbers? The VIN number always shows the model year.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

I guess the manufacturer, in this case, GM, assigns the VIN based upon the production date. Back in those days the U.S. auto manufacturers model year always seemed to be a year ahead of the actual production date.
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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2023, 08:14:03 PM »

Using the VIN Calculator, my Experia shows up as a 2024.  My insurer also considers it a 2024, but DMV says its a 2023.  Title and registration are still in process, so I don't know if this is an issue I will need to address, or if they will resolve this amongst themselves.
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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2023, 09:23:58 PM »

Using the VIN Calculator, my Experia shows up as a 2024.  My insurer also considers it a 2024, but DMV says its a 2023.  Title and registration are still in process, so I don't know if this is an issue I will need to address, or if they will resolve this amongst themselves.

I guess if the VIN matches the actual bike in your garage, that's what matters. The only conflict I could imagine is if you get pulled over and the Cop notices the discrepancy in model year between your registration and proof of insurance. You could just point out the VIN is the same on all three (bike, Ins, and Reg)
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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2023, 10:05:09 PM »

Mine is 39, took delivery end of March.  FYI, also the bike is a model year 2024, not 2023. (I see you are listing yours as a 2023) 

Energica screwed up the MSO on my bike originally, neither the dealer or I caught it when doing the paperwork.  They issued a corrected MSO and I had to get the title corrected so it matched what Energica registered with NHTSA for the bike.  https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/decoder/Decoder
You have one too many "Decoder" in your link and it will not work as shown.  So use this for the Vin numbers.




Mine comes back as:

Manufacturer: ENERGICA MOTOR COMPANY SPA
DBAs:
Vehicle Type: MOTORCYCLE
Model Year: 2023
Make: ENERGICA
Model: EXPERIA
Body Class: Motorcycle - Touring / Sport Touring

-Don-  Auburn, CA

Mine comes back with this...

2024 ENERGICA - MOTORCYCLE
 Error Text: 0 - VIN decoded clean. Check Digit (9th position) is correct
Manufacturer: ENERGICA MOTOR COMPANY SPA

DBAs:

Vehicle Type: MOTORCYCLE

Model Year: 2024

Make: ENERGICA

Model: EXPERIA

Body Class: Motorcycle - Touring / Sport Touring

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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2023, 10:17:44 PM »

I bought my model year 1999 Saturn car in July 1998. I think the model year is flexible depending upon what the company's marketing department calls it.   ???
But who assigns the VIN numbers? The VIN number always shows the model year.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

I guess the manufacturer, in this case, GM, assigns the VIN based upon the production date. Back in those days the U.S. auto manufacturers model year always seemed to be a year ahead of the actual production date.

My 10 yr old Jeep GC sitting in the driveway I ordered in March of 2013 and took Delivery on July 3rd of 2013, but it's a 2014 MY (new platform at the time).  At best, I think it might help with resale a little at this point, as the the 2014 MY ran well into fall of 2014 until the 2015s came out.
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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2023, 10:21:55 PM »

Using the VIN Calculator, my Experia shows up as a 2024.  My insurer also considers it a 2024, but DMV says its a 2023.  Title and registration are still in process, so I don't know if this is an issue I will need to address, or if they will resolve this amongst themselves.

I don't think it matters until you go to sell it, might cause an issue on either end at that time.  That being said, I bought a bike once where there was a typo in the VIN on the title.  WI DMV fixed it when issuing the new title without any grief.  I think I might have had to go to the PD and have them witness the VIN and sign a form.  This was a 35 year old airhead however, the older the vehicle the less they care it seems.
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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2023, 10:15:41 PM »

It seems about September - October is when the automakers come out with their new year models.  Given the government calendar resets on october, and most them are sucking the govt titty to stay afloat anyways, it would not surprise me if there was a correlation.  I could also see some dealers getting their inventory ahead of time for the big 'year end blowout sale' bla bla vomit.... and possibly letting a few loose a bit early, ie aug / sept as well, because money  talks.

Title problems and stuff that is I guess you could say clerical in nature, they can generally take care of when you goto renew the license, sell the vehicle and it shouldn't be that big of an issue really.  Typo's and the such tend to be pretty obvious that they were a typo and not someone trying to pass their 2008 as a 2003 type thing.

Amusing though that they can sell a 2024 this and that, and the 23year is barely half over.  So why not just jump the gun and sell me a 25 now, beat the crowd??  ::shrug::

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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2023, 11:49:52 PM »

I asked my dealer for an update, but apparently the white color I ordered is not available yet.  Oh, well.
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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2023, 01:39:19 AM »

I asked my dealer for an update, but apparently the white color I ordered is not available yet.  Oh, well.

If you really want an Experia and indeed want a white one...I wonder if you can get either the Bormio Ice or Black models and change out the plastics when they become available..??

I personally wanted the black after I had seen one.... but it wasn't an option when I originally ordered mine...which was the "launch edition" Bormio Ice.

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Re: It's July 2023 and . . . .
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2023, 02:11:11 AM »


If you really want an Experia and indeed want a white one...I wonder if you can get either the Bormio Ice or Black models and change out the plastics when they become available..??

I personally wanted the black after I had seen one.... but it wasn't an option when I originally ordered mine...which was the "launch edition" Bormio Ice.

Smithy.
This was suggested to me as an alternative, and maybe even using a vinyl wrap.  At this point, I just want to ride one.  I changed my order to Borimo Ice and was told mid-September.
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