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DonTom

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Re: Battery Reading Stuck at 0%
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2023, 02:16:19 AM »


No error messages so far.  ??👍
I think you will have your bike fixed after a couple of extra-long charges.


I don't think the BMS will let it overcharge regardless of your SOC.


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Re: Battery Reading Stuck at 0%
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2023, 01:40:46 PM »

Ever since I got the firmware update last month, the time estimates for "charge complete" have been even worse than it was (and I found it was pretty inaccurate before (especially for times greater than a few hours)).

My current theory is that one of the cells became dangerously unbalanced from the others (and as a fail-safe the firmware  brought the displayed SoC from 50% to 0% immediately.
...just a theory.

Good to hear that you are good to go again! 

No worries, the charge-time estimation is totally nuts since the xxx042 update. Also range estimation is messed up. You are not alone with that problem.
Luckily it does not appear to affect performance, in my view probably just some factors were messed up. Annoying sloppy quality control though.
Reported that to my dealer who forwarded it to Energica. No answer yet.
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Re: Battery Reading Stuck at 0%
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2023, 10:22:14 PM »


Thank you Don and jotjotde.

I consider this issue closed, but wanted to add one more CLUE for someday finding the root cause:

After the first cycle, riding to drain the SoC for the next charge, I parked it at 41%.  When I started it back up to move it to the charger, it displayed 91% SoC.
  The missing 50% that magically disappeared 4 days earlier miraculously reappeared. 

When I put it in drive it gave a status message ( I wish I took a pic to get the exact wording ), that said something like:
  "Charge to 100% to allow for cell balancing and to Align SoC"

I did charge to 100% (which I typically do every 500 miles or so (80% SoC my typical overnight charge)).

And again, no error codes were found in the diagnostic screen (haven't check OBD2 yet, but don't expect anything since I didn't see an actual error since getting un-stuck from 0% SoC).

Thanks again,
 Mike / firmware
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Re: Battery Reading Stuck at 0%
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2023, 10:31:28 PM »


Thank you Don and jotjotde.

I consider this issue closed, but wanted to add one more CLUE for someday finding the root cause:

After the first cycle, riding to drain the SoC for the next charge, I parked it at 41%.  When I started it back up to move it to the charger, it displayed 91% SoC.
  The missing 50% that magically disappeared 4 days earlier miraculously reappeared. 

When I put it in drive it gave a status message ( I wish I took a pic to get the exact wording ), that said something like:
  "Charge to 100% to allow for cell balancing and to Align SoC"

I did charge to 100% (which I typically do every 500 miles or so (80% SoC my typical overnight charge)).

And again, no error codes were found in the diagnostic screen (haven't check OBD2 yet, but don't expect anything since I didn't see an actual error since getting un-stuck from 0% SoC).

Thanks again,
 Mike / firmware
What that message said was to ride until you're in the limp mode at 0% SOC and then charge all the way up to 100% SOC.  IOW, do a full charge from empty to full at once. That will calibrate your SOC.


It's an expected message after such a screwy SOC is displayed.


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Re: Battery Reading Stuck at 0%
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2023, 02:02:53 AM »

What that message said was to ride until you're in the limp mode at 0% SOC and then charge all the way up to 100% SOC.

Got it!
Makes sense.  I will do this ASAP.

Thanks again,
 Mike / firmware
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