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Author Topic: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out  (Read 586 times)

victor6.7y

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2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« on: January 03, 2022, 12:10:49 AM »

See link:

https://prismic-io.s3.amazonaws.com/zero-cms-disco/6d9c5f82-1947-4c3b-b101-664763627a78_OM-FST-MY22.pdf

intresting points to me:
  • Extended range charing.
  • Cypher store overview
  • Yellow Key
  • Parking Mode operation
  • On-board Charing Rating
  • Nominal Capacity, Premium SR/R 13.7 kWh - Maximum 15.6 kWh
* estimated powerpack life also chagnes; so looking at this they are really using different or more cells
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« Last Edit: January 03, 2022, 12:26:00 AM by victor6.7y »
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Re: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2022, 08:10:00 PM »

Nice Find !!

Also an interesting piece in the troubleshooting section (chapter 7.7) . In the error list are the following errors explained :

error 60 : CCS Converter Fault - CCS DC-DC converter not connected or not functioning.
error 61 : CCS Interface Fault - CCS interface unit not connected or not functioning properly.
error 62 : CCS Communication Fault - CCS communication fault with charging station.

Could that mean that CCS is coming to zero's. It sure looks like it is. And by the explanations it could take the form of a chargetank conversion (additional module install) but instead of a 6kW AC DC converter it would be a xx kW DC-DC converter. Now the big question would be how many kW. The premium would then have a 6kW AC ability as well as the xx kW DC ability as well definitely interested.
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Former : White Zero SR 2018 ZF14.4 kWh (17.500 km)
Former : Black Zero SR 2014 ZF11.4 kWh (25.000 km)
SR's outfitted with Homemade "Supercharger" 6x eltek Flatpack S (12 kW)

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Re: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2022, 11:43:26 PM »

It's been my understanding the CCS requires a minimum 200V battery.  Has the battery voltage increased in the 2022 models?
Also, those error code definitions are in my 2020 Owner's Manual, so it doesn't look like something new is coming.
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Re: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2022, 11:45:02 PM »

Following intently on the CCS findings.  Even if it was say, 17kw of ccs, estimating based on the max capacity of the new battery pack staying at 1C, that would be pretty darn awesome I'd say!  I'd be off the fence and visiting my local dealer...
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Re: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2022, 02:48:37 AM »

It's been my understanding the CCS requires a minimum 200V battery.  Has the battery voltage increased in the 2022 models?
Also, those error code definitions are in my 2020 Owner's Manual, so it doesn't look like something new is coming.

You are correct in that CCS requires minimum 200VDC. The text also says "CCS DCDC converter (error)" so to comply with the 200V CCS requirement they apparently want to use a DCDC converter that steps down the 200V (or higher) from the Charger to the "around" 100 Volt of the Zero.

That size DCDC converter is quite big but I think it is feasible to make a DCDC converter the size of a charge tank and hopefully more than 12kW of power.
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SR's outfitted with Homemade "Supercharger" 6x eltek Flatpack S (12 kW)

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Re: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2022, 03:26:19 AM »

It appears Zero has been looking into this for at least 2 years, based on my 2020 Owner's Manual.  But with the hardware changes required, including a CCS connector and the ability to retain the present Level 2 charging system, I suspect the price tag would be a significant fraction of a new bike.
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Re: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2022, 04:34:41 AM »

hmm if only they could dynamically reconfigure the monolith in software with some relays so that it was a 400V pack then they wouldn't need the DCDC conversion...

Cas :)
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Re: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2022, 10:31:22 AM »

As of firmware v20, when pulling the config via the MBB CCS and 500W DC to DC converter show as options.

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Re: 2022 Zero SR & SR/F & SR/S manuals are out
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2022, 05:47:09 PM »

The 500W DC-DC entry goes back several firmware versions.  The CCS entry appears to be new.
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