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Kill3rT0fu

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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2021, 02:48:36 AM »

Would 2 of these be a good substitute for the no longer available diginow chargers?
I use two of the 3.3 KW Elcons on my SR. Those are the same units that DigiNow used. Mine are just a bit more simple and are only used to 95% SOC when the OBC takes over. No CANBUS connection of any type on mine. They are simply wired into the motor controller with 50 amp Anderson connectors I installed on the bike.


I charge my 2017 SR at almost 8KW when on the road. Even more at home by adding in some DeltaQs. But I carry the chargers externally in my sidebags. I only take them when I will need them. At home, I can charge as high as 12KW, but I normally only charge at 3KW at home. At any of my three houses, I am set up with two DeltaQs all ready, so I normally only use those unless I am in a hurry to recharge when home, which is almost never.


Similar configuration on my Zero DS, but I use the older 2.5KW Elcons with it, that are larger in size but less power. I charge my DS at around 6.3 KW. I do not exceed this on my DS even at home, since it has a 7.2 KWH (the unusable max) battery and I want to stay somewhat  below 1C.


If you use two, they should be started close to the same time. Within a minute or so.  I have never found that to be an issue, as I always start them both at the same time.


-Don-  Reno, NV

how are you getting 8 kwh? Do you have a third charger? How do you go about wiring something like that? It requires 2 j1772 plugs, doesn't it?

Would it be better to get TC chargers now, or if I can find diginows would those be the better option? (considering they aren't made or supported anymore)
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StableofZeros

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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #106 on: July 07, 2021, 03:18:07 AM »

Two ElCons would get the 6.6kW into the bike, and he has 2 delta Qs at about 1kW each plugged into another circuit. That’s if he has a standard EVSE as most are 7ish kW max output. An at home Tesla charger with a 100A circuit could be used to power all of the chargers at once with a particular adapter and splitter combo.
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DonTom

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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #107 on: July 07, 2021, 04:04:25 AM »

how are you getting 8 kwh? Do you have a third charger? How do you go about wiring something like that? It requires 2 j1772 plugs, doesn't it?

Would it be better to get TC chargers now, or if I can find diginows would those be the better option? (considering they aren't made or supported anymore)
On my SR, I use two 3.3 KW Elcons plus the OBC that is around 1.3KW. So 3.3+3.3+1.3=7.9 KW.


For my DS, I use two larger, heavier  but less powerful (older design) 2.5 KW units. 2.5+2.5+1.3=6.3KW.


I wired my external chargers direct to the battery contacts of the motor controller.


I only take the Elcons for longer trips where I will need a charge.


Sometimes it requires two J-plugs for 8KW, but often not. There are several high power J-stations around these days. But most of the ChargePoint stations can only handle 6.3 KW per side, so then I hog up both.


I can adjust my power manually as I can overload SOME J-stations since I do not use the pilot signal.  See here and read the several messages after it.


BTW, I think it's kinda neat  that I can charge my Zero SR at a higher rate than most cars can accept on an AC charge. I have deliberately overloaded a Chargepoint once just to see what will happen. It shutdown and reset by itself in about 30 seconds and sent me an e-mail that I am drawing excessive power which made the station shut down.


"Dear Donald,The station at which your vehicle is charging, DC CORRIDOR / COLFAX D&D L2, has detected that your Vehicle is drawing more current than the station's rating, and has suspended charging to prevent the circuit breaker from tripping. This typically indicates an issue with configuration of the vehicle or an issue with the battery management system on the vehicle. Please contact the manufacturer of the vehicle if you receive this notification again.Team ChargePoint"


I enjoyed getting that message! :)

-Don-  Reno, NV




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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #108 on: September 14, 2021, 03:44:46 AM »

Hi,

I am about to buy Elcon charger straight from Elcon.
Now, I can see this tread on the forum and I am wondering if I can buy it together with you guys.

Let me know if it's not too late, please.

I am from Tampa, FL.
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StableofZeros

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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2021, 05:19:17 AM »

We have already completed the first group buy purchase. Not sure if they’re back in stock at ElCon, I have not checked in with Sayyed in some time.
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kuzynj

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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #110 on: September 14, 2021, 07:33:46 PM »

I've got email from Sayyed.
He said they have few of them.

Any advise before I will place the order?

My onboard charger is dying slowly. Now is charging for few sec, turning off and repeats the cycle.

I would like to connect Elcon to the 240V and charge thru Anderson port.

Can I do that without onboard charger?
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Re: Elcon 3.3kw charger group buy
« Reply #111 on: September 14, 2021, 09:08:58 PM »

I would like to connect Elcon to the 240V and charge thru Anderson port.

Can I do that without onboard charger?

Yes, but you'll need the bike keyed on in order to close the contactor, or the enable hack defined here: https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=8298.msg100911#msg100911
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