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Author Topic: 2011 Zero S Throttle replacement/upgrade  (Read 1678 times)

milezerozero

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2011 Zero S Throttle replacement/upgrade
« on: May 22, 2021, 10:34:40 AM »

     New-to-me 2011 Zero S, with some intermittent throttle issues. I get the throttle switch blink code most, but not all, times I power the bike on to ride. Occasionally the throttle is initially unresponsive, I cycle the kill switch, rolling the throttle off and on while the kills switch is engaged, which resolves the issue. I have not been stranded yet, and virtually all of my trips are less than three miles. driven about 200 miles since I became the owner.
     I ordered a Domino throttle and received it recently. Yesterday, after two days of heavy rain (the bike is outdoors under a bike cover), I sat on the bike with the key on for longer than 15 minutes (engaged in a phone call but late to meet friends). The throttle was initially responsive but after a few minutes it began creeping slightly while the throttle was fully "off". I understand now there's a "time out" if the key is on and the throttle is untouched for 7200 seconds, but I could not get the bike to reset and allow me to ride. The "creeping" throttle was unnerving.
   So, today I removed the old throttle to replace it. One thing I found: the shrink wrap protecting the plug from the throttle was loose and could easily rotate(potential moisture intrusion?) The potentiometer, when tested, never reaches zero. In the "throttle off" position it reads 190-1,000 ohms(manipulation of the handle, as if a hand were on the handle bar, caused it to bounce between those low readings) and WOT measures 5,480 ohms. I imagine the latent resistance is just oxidization inside the wiring and/or potentiometer. The original bike side of the connector has four wires, but the old throttle has only two. My new throttle is a five wire Domino and I'm struggling to find documentation to guide the decision whether to attempt incorporating the microswitch and high side of the pot.
     I'm searching on the Unofficial Zero Manual wiki, here, and around the web but haven't really found joy. Also trying to document the process well so I can contribute to the Unofficial Manual for the gen 1 platform. Any pointers are greatly appreciated, I'm trying to get a grasp on the resources available without asking too many simple questions but keep hitting dead ends today.



Cheers
Jim
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2011 Zero S @4200 miles

Crissa

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Re: 2011 Zero S Throttle replacement/upgrade
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2021, 11:26:26 PM »

Definitely that latent current in the throttle was the problem!

Alas, the unofficial manual has some details but missing others.  I'm not sure how to fix it, especially not the oldest one.  https://zeromanual.com/index.php?title=Throttle&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

There are some threads on throttles, but I don't know which might help you.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:electricmotorcycleforum.com+2012+throttle

-Crissa
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Re: 2011 Zero S Throttle replacement/upgrade
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2021, 05:36:37 AM »

Thank you!

Spent the day digging, and finishing up the smaller taillight assembly since the wiring is more familiar. The original, Zero specific throttle, is actually available (cables are all labeled with part numbers making the search easier once everything is apart). It's labeled as a 4way switch with shielded cable, but my replacement isn't shielded. https://www.af1racing.com/ASSY-THROTTLE-0-5K-SHIELDED-4WY-CHECK-LABEL-BAND-ON-THROTTLE-ZM40-00143-10


The molex used as a connector on the throttle side is male: https://www.molex.com/molex/products/part-detail/crimp_housings/0522660417
and I'm trying to avoid cutting the original harness, as a courtesy to future owners.

Planning to order the molex from Mouser and wait
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