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PWM

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Eva Top Box
« on: July 29, 2020, 10:06:14 AM »

A big thanks to list member Jef for scoping out initial Eva hard-point mounting options, today I presented the following to a mechanical engineer bud that I highly respect for his zeal to help with the given problem.

I told him design criteria includes non-invasive adaption and he replies what about the tail light?  It won't work with it there (he's safety savvy) again, no alterations - I explained if the light flashes when regen is invoked it likely rides on the can bus - we can replicate the hardware (OEM preferred) and divert bus services but anyway it is a point to resolve.  This ME is Stanford graduate and understands product development.  He asked about about quantity and I replied it will saturate quickly maybe 2-3 before someone offers something cheaper aligned toward Givi versus BMW which the cheesy rendering tries to convey.

Per attachment - not sure he's hip on the frame work that's my concept to spur discussion.  Lightweight, stiff are obvious objectives - I'm worried about just (1) and don't mind open sourcing the effort if ideas align.
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Re: Eva Top Box
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2020, 01:10:23 PM »

I want also a Top box (and site)

Marcel did an project on a EVA (also making it RED) nice pictures on his site:

http://electricmotorcycles.nl/nieuws/148/energica-eva-op-maat

I do not think an additional taillight is required, it good visible.

Marchel made artist impression  ;D ;D with his best paint skills. more for the idea.
colors A and B will be painted in the exact Ribelle grey.

And probably not hip but I need the space for work sometimes.

Givi link: https://www.givi.it/givi-products/cases/monokey/v47

 
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Re: Eva Top Box
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2020, 08:18:34 PM »

How cool is that!  Great news, why re-invent the wheel?

When I inquired directly to same source little interest was expressed - I hope my note lights the fire for demand.

I will search the Givi catalog assuming the QD system employed is the key element to decide next step.

@ frank_b u-da-man for this glimmer of hope on low hanging fruit - thx!
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Re: Eva Top Box
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2020, 11:04:56 PM »

I want also a Top box (and site)

Marcel did an project on a EVA (also making it RED) nice pictures on his site:

http://electricmotorcycles.nl/nieuws/148/energica-eva-op-maat

I do not think an additional taillight is required, it good visible.

Marchel made artist impression  ;D ;D with his best paint skills. more for the idea.
colors A and B will be painted in the exact Ribelle grey.

And probably not hip but I need the space for work sometimes.

Givi link: https://www.givi.it/givi-products/cases/monokey/v47

Is the top case rack available for sale?
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Re: Eva Top Box
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2020, 10:39:15 AM »

Is the top case rack available for sale?

Electric Motorcycles Netherlands is a Energica dealer. They produce some custom parts for the brands they sell.

They do not have a product page for the EVA racks but do have a set for the EsseEsse9
http://electricmotorcycles.nl/producten/123/energica-esseesse9-givi-trekker-kofferset?categoryId=3



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Re: Eva Top Box
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2020, 11:02:50 AM »

A big thanks to list member Jef for scoping out initial Eva hard-point mounting options, today I presented the following to a mechanical engineer bud that I highly respect for his zeal to help with the given problem.

I told him design criteria includes non-invasive adaption and he replies what about the tail light?  It won't work with it there (he's safety savvy) again, no alterations - I explained if the light flashes when regen is invoked it likely rides on the can bus - we can replicate the hardware (OEM preferred) and divert bus services but anyway it is a point to resolve.  This ME is Stanford graduate and understands product development.  He asked about about quantity and I replied it will saturate quickly maybe 2-3 before someone offers something cheaper aligned toward Givi versus BMW which the cheesy rendering tries to convey.

Per attachment - not sure he's hip on the frame work that's my concept to spur discussion.  Lightweight, stiff are obvious objectives - I'm worried about just (1) and don't mind open sourcing the effort if ideas align.

I'll try to post a rear photo of a EVA Ribelle tomorrow so you can better understand where the hardpoints your design ties into.

Not trying to discourage you in anyway, just want to provide a little insight.

The rear bar of your rack is aimed at 4 bolts that secure the license plate holder to the subframe. The length of the tubes needed to connect to here and locate your rack far enough back and up, would require the bars to be very thick (heavy).

The other bar in your rack uses bolts on the underside of the bike. There is no way to reach them with a straight run. You would need to curve the bars around the bodywork.

All of the rear racks I have seen for Energica bikes are adapted onto racks for saddlebags. Because the saddle bag racks are offset from the bodywork of the motorcycle it allows for shorter straighter bars to create a platform for a top case.

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Re: Eva Top Box
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2020, 01:16:46 PM »

Correct sorry if I gave the wrong impression, Cases are standard GIVI
Rack is custom made bij Electric Motorcycles Netherlands.  (so far the low hanging fruit, sorry)


Electric Motorcycles Netherlands is a Energica dealer. They produce some custom parts for the brands they sell.

They do not have a product page for the EVA racks but do have a set for the EsseEsse9
http://electricmotorcycles.nl/producten/123/energica-esseesse9-givi-trekker-kofferset?categoryId=3

But you can send Marchel a mail if he wants to make more, like the eeseesse9 see link above.

He is waiting for mine Ribelle so he can make a custom rack and then he has all the measurements to make more.
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Re: Eva Top Box
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2020, 09:54:29 PM »

Patience to allow Marcel to complete the Eva rack development task is my read.

By example the EMN product observed in this thread looks very nice and is the only thing proven at this time - I would like to see more details with respect to usage specs or customer testimonials.

Diverting attention to other matters given a solution (seemingly) exists which means less work getting there.

This discussion is appreciated - Jef, I hope you too see promise in the effort made.   

Awesome Energica is there for support and best regards to Marcel for initiating it.
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