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E-Luke

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Indicators not responding
« on: May 06, 2020, 01:34:38 AM »

G’day everyone!

I’ve swapped out my indicators on my ‘16 DSR to an LED set, and having no luck getting a response from them... I swapped the back set first and they fired up no problems - although it did seem a little quicker flashing. I think.
Came to the front and took apart the front assembly, had to disconnect a few switches to access the tightly zip tied loom, but swapped them over no worries and now not getting anything when turning them on. Nothing in front or back.

There is a little earth wire which I can’t be sure was connected before I dismantled the front. Should it be screwed into something or do I leave it loose?

Have I blown a fuse? Do LEDs not work? Could I have missed reconnecting something? I’m pretty handy with a wrench, but by no means able to name everything I touch!

Looking for some crowd wisdom for more experienced wrenchers than myself.

Cheers!

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Re: Indicators not responding
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2020, 02:21:04 AM »

I have recently changed my indicators to led

Connect the same wires to the led blinkers as the original, not chassis earth

From wiki Unofficial manual :

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(3-wire)   Tail light power   Brown
      Brake light power   White with red stripe
      Negative/Return   Black
   Single pin connector
Socket: Molex 03-09-2011 [15] [16]
Pin: Molex 03-09-1011 [17]   Left turn signal power   Green
      Negative/Return   Black
      Right turn signal power   Grey
      Negative/Return   
You need a different relay suitable for led indicators which will require the outer pins of the old relay to be reversed


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Re: Indicators not responding
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2020, 04:02:54 AM »

Thanks for the information! As I’m not very good at electronics, what do you mean “outer pin”? The connectors (red, black, black, grey) were not any pin type...

What would the relay look like? Any tips of where to buy it and what I would look for?
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Re: Indicators not responding
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2020, 12:46:16 PM »

The relay you can get from Amazon - search for 3Pin Adjustable Flasher for LED Turn Signals . The outer connections of spade type are reversed for the Zero of your year which need to be swapped.
See - https://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=8751.0
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https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Turn_Signal_Flasher


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Re: Indicators not responding
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 04:44:06 PM »

are they the chevron style blinkers (with animation?)

if so you will need to remove your relay as these blinkers flash on themselves.
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Re: Indicators not responding
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2020, 12:18:34 AM »

G’day everyone!

I’ve swapped out my indicators on my ‘16 DSR to an LED set, and having no luck getting a response from them... I swapped the back set first and they fired up no problems - although it did seem a little quicker flashing. I think.
Came to the front and took apart the front assembly, had to disconnect a few switches to access the tightly zip tied loom, but swapped them over no worries and now not getting anything when turning them on. Nothing in front or back.

There is a little earth wire which I can’t be sure was connected before I dismantled the front. Should it be screwed into something or do I leave it loose?


This wire most likely is a bearing jumper.
Bearings must be protected from electrical current as that can pit the balls leading to failure.
You will find a bearing jumper on the steering head & the swing arm.
These jumpers must be connected to the main metal body on each side of the bearing pivot.

You need a solid state blinker relay as the stock is electromagnetic & needs a certain current draw that LED's don’t provide.
You could add a load resister to the circuit to increase the load.
Know that Zero uses a relay that is not the norm so you have two options.
Source the abnormal one or change the wiring on the bikes relay socket (swap two of the three wires in the relay socket).
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Re: Indicators not responding
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2020, 04:02:56 AM »

Awesome... thanks for all the info fellas! I’ll take care of that “bearing wire” and then check out the relay that I just bought. Give. The last comment, it might be incorrect, but I bought a 3 pin amazon CF14 relay. I’ll see how it goes!

And the blinkers are cheap amazon things, but they don’t flash all at once, they kind’ve sequentially run from the inner led out to the last one. Not sure if that’s what the chevron bit means.

And again, I’ll have to see if I’ve screwed something deeper up as the rear set we’re working, albeit hyper flashing, but then when they front ones were hooked up none of them worked. But maybe this is the incorrect relay as you’ve all said.

I’m figuring this stuff out as I go, so thanks for your patience!
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