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[DonTom]

Today, I went down to the CLOSED (closed on Mondays) Harley Shop in Rocklin, CA to take a loot at their new charge station mentioned on Plugshare.

I was told at the Reno Harely shop that they  will have both J-1772 as well as CCS.

But the Rocklin shop only has CCS.

It was iced by their own truck today. But a bike should still have room to use it.  Here is what it looks like (It's ChargePoint):

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Richard230]

Complete with the Bar and Shield.     I wonder how long it will take to accumulate some graffiti? 

[DonTom]

Complete with the Bar and Shield.     I wonder how long it will take to accumulate some graffiti? 

I am sure it will get some use, but I wonder if it will ever be used by  a sold  Livewire.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[DonTom]

I went back to the Rocklin HD dealer today. I previously  heard the LW should be in by August, but I learned today they changed that date to late September.

I also found out today that the charge station they have in front of the Rocklin HD shop is NOT yet  wired up. Not even the 120 VAC outlet on its side. I assume it will be wired up by the time they get in their Livewires. Looks like it will be one 120 VAC connector and one CCS DC charger.

Anyway, I had a BS session  with one of the sales guys there  who was just trained on the Livewire. He went to the training in  Milwaukee and has rode the LW. And then he made a lot of claims about what he learned. He either he did not understand what they were teaching or he was taught incorrectly. But there has to be mistakes, and I don't think it is me.

He made a lot of ridiculous statements about the LiveWire, one being how it can charge on ABSOLUTELY any EV  charger in the USA, including the Tesla Superchargers down the street (where I picked up  my Tesla after the order--and I have used their SuperChargers there). So I explained how the Tesla Superchargers (SC) work, how I just plug in and walk away (not a single button to press or anything) the SC reads my VIN  and charges the credit card linked to my Tesla account. Anyway, he was 100% certain that I was wrong, and the SCs will still work on the LW, regardless of all that, because that is what he was taught.

I told him he was probably confused with Tesla Destination chargers (with a Tesla Tap--which I doubt the LW comes with)  and he still said the LiveWire could use the Tesla Superchargers down the street. He was very sure and from there, I did not want to get into a big debate with him.

This is the typical BS I get from most MC dealers when it comes to electric motorcycles.

Any comments?


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[MVetter]

Comments? Yes. He is wrong.

[oobflyer]

Our dealership in Stockton, CA just installed their CCS charger! (Still no bikes yet...)

[DonTom]

Our dealership in Stockton, CA just installed their CCS charger! (Still no bikes yet...)

Do you know if it is all wired up? Looks like it could be.  I wonder if there will be more non-Harley's than Harley's using it.

And if the HD dealers will care. Especially if a new Energica Esse Esse 9 is using the HD charge station  as a new Livewire rides up.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[oobflyer]

It is wired up - the display was on.
I didn't ask any questions, however, about other people using their chargers.
My wife and I have owned three different electric cars - one thing I've noticed about dealerships is that it depends entirely on the owner of the dealership. Some will happily share their chargers and others will chase off anyone not driving their brand.
But, once my local dealership finally gets some LiveWire bikes in - I'll be back to test-ride the thing and ask more questions.