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[DonTom]

Speaking of H-D prices, I just read in the last Motorcyclist magazine (or was it Motorcycle Consumer News?) that H-D has one very fancy ICE model that sells for $44K.     So if you are one of the "faithful" your pricing limits can be pretty high.   

Here is a Harley that costs a bit more than 44K$.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[DonTom]

I have a Livewire on order.  I am going to have fun with it for sure.

I am sure you will.

But what made you choose the LW over all he other Electric motorcycles?  Or do you have others? Or at least Test ride others?

And when should it arrive?

-Don-  Reno, NV

[Richard230]

Speaking of H-D prices, I just read in the last Motorcyclist magazine (or was it Motorcycle Consumer News?) that H-D has one very fancy ICE model that sells for $44K.     So if you are one of the "faithful" your pricing limits can be pretty high.   

Here is a Harley that costs a bit more than 44K$.

-Don-  Reno, NV

I wonder how many of those they expect to sell?    Good luck getting that price.  The designer couldn't even afford a muffler. 

[RFlashman]

Anyone figure out yet if the Livewire has a Long Period Rest Mode for their battery similar to what Energica or the Zero SR/F have? So if you garage it for the winter you can put the battery to sleep and extend its long term life?

[DonTom]

Anybody know the LW main battery voltage?

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[MVetter]

I was able to work it out based on information supplied by the wonderful Troy Siahaan at motorcycle.com

The LiveWire will operate in the low 200s for voltage. I worked this out based on Troy's answer from an engineer at H-D that said the bike charges at 60A which its 1C rate. If we take the claim that the pack is 13.7kWh nominal then we use EXCITING MATH:

13700kWh / 60Ah = 228.3333v

The real question is whether or not if the battery drops to 0% SoC if the bike goes below 200v and will not be able to be revived at a CCS station, but will need to be trickle charged by a 110 wall plug to get it over 200.

edit- I actually have a source instead of pulling these numbers out of thin air.

[Doug S]

I was able to work it out based on information supplied by the wonderful Troy Siahaan at motorcycle.com

The LiveWire will operate in the low 200s for voltage. I worked this out based on Troy's answer from an engineer at H-D that said the bike charges at 60A which its 1C rate. If we take the claim that the pack is 13.7kWh nominal then we use EXCITING MATH:

13700kWh / 60Ah = 228.3333v

The real question is whether or not if the battery drops to 0% SoC if the bike goes below 200v and will not be able to be revived at a CCS station, but will need to be trickle charged by a 110 wall plug to get it over 200.

edit- I actually have a source instead of pulling these numbers out of thin air.

Actual data, awesome! And although the battery pack may drop below 200 VDC before it's considered at 0% SoC, I don't think that would be a problem. The BMS would just tell the CCS station to give it 200VDC, but subject to, say, 5A maximum, to trickle charge it past the proper threshold, then bump the voltage and current up for bulk charging as it gets into the midrange. I really doubt any CC/CV charger would have any heartburn about that.