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[MrBlc]

@Gary I'm sorry, but this was a long time coming as New2Elec wrote. It's my fault for the confrontation happening in this thread but i'm tired of lusers pawning their negativity to everyone around them just because they are dissatisfied.

Being a person with a very good memory i can also add that N2E is also VERY correct in his statements. It's all visible in this forum in various threads. But.. trolls love the attention and will always claim lies to get their attention. Since mods don't care to do much, let's just all ignore the evident follow that will come after this post about how wrong we all are.. at some point the focus will be shifted if attention is not reached.

[Crissa]

In a weird way, this is the argument between the Tesla Performance and the Porsche Taycan.

One is a street car, the other has the heart of a racer.  The vast majority of users will never know the difference.  And building something that can handle wide open throttle, heavy maximum load, hot tight race conditions... Well, that's always been a thing:

Twenty years ago the vast majority of ICE vehicles did not have the reliability to do race days.  They'd overheat and die.  We're just at an inflection point where durable has spread out to more cars and bikes than ever before, just as EVs are surpassing on the edge of performance or cost per mile.  But it's still or right now.  It might always be 'or', like it was for ICE for the last century.

-Crissa

PS:  Just because something has a fast 0-60 (which will vary wildly by the load of course) doesn't mean it's a racer.  The fastest 0-60 in a stock street car for a long time was a Nova.  That was not something for the race course!  Thing squealed around every corner like you're driving crazy and spun at the drop of a dime with the least amount of braking unevenness.  And the engine they put in to do that would crack if driven too hot because it was over-bored.

[Brammofan]

We are done here, people. No more names, no more mention of genitals, etc. Topic locked. I will not hesitate to lock other topics and ban people from the forum.