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[Doug S]

I agree with MrBlc and valnar. This is one of the worst red herring arguments the haters give against BEVs. Paul Krugman would call it a "zombie argument"; no matter how many times it's killed, it keeps coming back.

Next we're going to hear the ole "EVs use coal as their fuel" argument trotted out again.

[Richard230]

One other thing to think about:  Having 5 IC motorcycles and a 20-year old car, I can tell you that I go through a lot of motor oil every year.  I do give it to our local recycling yard, but I have no idea what they actually do with the old (and nasty) motor oil.  It is supposed to be recycled but the recycling (garbage) company never seems to say much about where that used oil finally ends up.   

[JaimeC]

One other thing to think about:  Having 5 IC motorcycles and a 20-year old car, I can tell you that I go through a lot of motor oil every year.  I do give it to our local recycling yard, but I have no idea what they actually do with the old (and nasty) motor oil.  It is supposed to be recycled but the recycling (garbage) company never seems to say much about where that used oil finally ends up.   

Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out they use it to make asphalt and road tar.

[Doug S]

It can't really be used to make asphalt. The molecular weight is far too low, which is why its viscosity is so much lower than asphalt.

From what I've read, it's easily cleaned up, re-fortified with new additives and put back in action as new crankcase oil, and it costs a lot less to do that than refine new from petroleum. (I hear it's better oil, too, since it's been further 'refined' by use in the motor.) They don't charge for disposal at those collection sites because they make money on the old oil.

The forms of recycling which actually turn a profit for the recycler I don't worry about too much.

[Jarrett]

From molecular weights to service concerns, this thread has it all!

[pacificcricket]

It can't really be used to make asphalt. The molecular weight is far too low, which is why its viscosity is so much lower than asphalt.

So can't make fuel for ICBMs either ? Shucks!

[meark]

My local dealer is San Jose BMW.

I've been there many times (I used to live in San Mateo & Belmont and other places in the west bay area).

Does SJ BMW have a Zero mechanic at this time, or are they selling the bikes with nobody to service them, like here in Reno at this time?


-Don-  Reno, NV

They fixed my melted headlight at SJ BMW. They attempted to fix but couldn't get past the BMS. They will do mechanical type work, think they leave the electrical/battery issues to Zero.

[meark]

Is it common to get loaner bikes from dealers when you bring one in for service? I figured the liability would be too great.

They said they have loaners for a day, but not extended service.

[meark]

Got my DSR back today. Exactly 4 weeks to the day. Nice of them to deliver to my house. Unfortunately they dropped it off with a flat tire??? Guess they don't have an air compressor at Zero HQ? lol

[Jarrett]

This made me literally lol

[DonTom]

Got my DSR back today. Exactly 4 weeks to the day. Nice of them to deliver to my house.

Did they say what they found wrong with it?

-Don-  (Honey Lake Rest Area, CA)