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[oobflyer]

I'm thinking that the only way to do this (since public J1772 stations are 6.6 kW) is via a 50A NEMA 14-50 plug, like some people have as a dryer outlet in their garage, or at an RV park.
240V x 50A = 12000W
Will we start looking for RV parks (like Benswing Rich), rather than car-charging stations now?

[pacificcricket]

I'm thinking that the only way to do this (since public J1772 stations are 6.6 kW) is via a 50A NEMA 14-50 plug, like some people have as a dryer outlet in their garage, or at an RV park.
240V x 50A = 12000W
Will we start looking for RV parks (like Benswing Rich), rather than car-charging stations now?

Where did you get 6.6kW number ? Many J1772 units for home use are meant for hooking up to 30A circuits, and have internal construction that would preclude them from passing more than that. So if somebody took 220v (incorrectly) and multiplied by 30, they could derive 6.6kW. According to wikipedia though, J1772 is intended for up to 19.2kW. Whether they can deliver that, of course depends on the particular station. But I am highly skeptical an industrial setup would be connected to anything less than 50A capable.

[reini]

I'd like to know if the european version spreads the 12 kW over three phases of the type 2 connector (3 + 3 + 6). We have a lot of free 11 kW charging stations, but the 11 kW are only if you use all three phases.

[MVetter]

You'll most likely get 9kW out of an EU 11kW station because it will probably chop the 6kW Charge Tank to 3 so it's balanced out. It seems logical that EU customers will need to use a 22kW station or greater to get the full 12kW.

Where did you get 6.6kW number ? Many J1772 units for home use are meant for hooking up to 30A circuits, and have internal construction that would preclude them from passing more than that. So if somebody took 220v (incorrectly) and multiplied by 30, they could derive 6.6kW. According to wikipedia though, J1772 is intended for up to 19.2kW. Whether they can deliver that, of course depends on the particular station. But I am highly skeptical an industrial setup would be connected to anything less than 50A capable.

No he's right. Pretty much all the installed stations in the US deliver 6.6kW or less. Doesn't matter what the protocol is capable of; manufacturers skimp on parts and we end up with 6.6kW max. A lot of stations *cough* Blink *cough* deliver only 5kW or below.

[Doug S]

I've already found RV parks to be very convenient. My riding club made a very nice trip out to Borrego Springs last year, in the desert above San Diego, and I wouldn't have been able to go with them without getting a charge at the RV park up there. I find RV parks generally pretty reasonable to deal with, maybe because of the novelty of the situation. One park wanted me to rent the space for a whole day, but I was able to reason with them and explain I just needed ~$1.50 worth of electricity, and they offered to give it to me for $5. Then they decided they didn't know how to bill me for it and just let me charge for free. God bless red tape!

[pacificcricket]

A lot of stations *cough* Blink *cough* deliver only 5kW or below.

I actually have a Blink station at home. It's designed for 30A, but a few years ago there was a problem with connectors melting or something similar
and they did a software update limiting them to 24A only, which is where I assume 5kW comes from.  Still, as a generalization I find it highly suspect, but
I don't have a vehicle to test with to prove otherwise.

[chrisho]

Got a NEMA 14-50 backed by a 60a switch in my garage for the Tesla mobile charger. It does 32a at 7.6 kWh which for the TM3 is 31/32 miles of range per hour. So with a Tesla Tap I should be fine with a Premier model and not see any real benefit from a charge tank. Provided of course I buy the bike. Going to wait to see reviews.

[reini]

You'll most likely get 9kW out of an EU 11kW station because it will probably chop the 6kW Charge Tank to 3 so it's balanced out. It seems logical that EU customers will need to use a 22kW station or greater to get the full 12kW.

Sure, but will they actually put the chargers on different phases? Or put all of them on one phase and make it unusable in Europe?

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

Sure, but will they actually put the chargers on different phases? Or put all of them on one phase and make it unusable in Europe?

Yes, they’ve confirmed that various charging units will array across phases for the European type 2 installation.

[SBK74]

Today Dutch YouTube influencer Enzo Knol published a video of a test drive on the zero SR/F. In the video he charged the bike with 11 kW on a common public 3Phase charger.

[remmie]

Here's is a still from that (rather long) video showing the charging screen with 11 kW charging