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[Badness]

https://electrek.co/2019/02/25/zero-sr-f-electric-motorcycle-launch/

[Fran K]

"The Zero SR/F features a number of different Level 1 and 2 charging options. The lowest option includes a 3 kW charger that can provide a 0-95% charge in 8 hours from a 110V outlet."

120vx8hrx15amps=14.4kwh  I think the author though his articles are linked a lot on this forum is confused about what a 3kw charger would draw at 110 volts.   I wonder if he has actually stuck a volt meter in an outlet as well, I usually get more than 120 volts and like 248 or so on a motorhome or dryer or stove type outlet.

Are not the 3 kw modules level 2 and the 110 cord the bike comes with something else?

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

The 3kW modules are likely 15A modules that draw 3kW at 220V and 1.5kW at 110V.

The SR/F's level 1 charging solution is to adapt the input into the J inlet.

[Richard230]

I found it interesting that Zero is now specifying that their 14.4 kWh battery has a "nominal" capacity of 12.6 kWh. Sounds about right.

[ultrarnr]

I think Zero has been the only EV that advertises total battery size instead of usable battery capacity. The 11.7 kWh battery that Energica advertises is the available capacity. Total battery size is 13.5 kWh. Makes it hard to compare battery sizes when companies use different definitions when advertising battery size.

[Alan Stewart]

I think Tesla has the right idea. It’s the resulting range, not the battery kWh, that matters. Then we need a good standard for how that range is measured.

[Curt]

I think Tesla has the right idea. It’s the resulting range, not the battery kWh, that matters. Then we need a good standard for how that range is measured.

It seems Zero's range quotes are impeccable, as according to the "(?)" hover-icons on their "SPECS" pages, the City and Combined ranges are calculated according to the SAE J2982 standard.

[Richard230]

I think Tesla has the right idea. It’s the resulting range, not the battery kWh, that matters. Then we need a good standard for how that range is measured.

It seems Zero's range quotes are impeccable, as according to the "(?)" hover-icons on their "SPECS" pages, the City and Combined ranges are calculated according to the SAE J2982 standard.

I give Zero credit for having accurate range claims, based upon my personal experience.  I would say that their claims are more repeatable for the average customer than ICE car manufacturers' fuel mileage claims - especially their "highway" mileage.

[togo]

I found it interesting that Zero is now specifying that their 14.4 kWh battery has a "nominal" capacity of 12.6 kWh. Sounds about right.

The detailed specs for my 2014 certainly list my 11.7 kWh as 10 nominal.  It's not new for them show the nominal.