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ESokoloff

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C14 Socket Connector Question?
« on: July 18, 2018, 09:06:41 AM »

So I've noticed that the top pin on the socket is getting warmer & warmer while charging.
Time to replace the socket & any/all bad connections & perhaps wire.

I purchased some sockets on Amazon but when they arrived today I found that they are not 1/4" stake on but rather solder connected. 
Perhaps this is the way to go as in my experience 10 amps is about the max that I trust on this type of connector (1/4" Stake-on).

Will I have any issues removing the stake-on's & just soldering the wires to the new socket?
Any tips on how best to access the socket?
TIA
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Re: C14 Socket Connector Question?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2018, 01:52:14 AM »

Presumably the stake-on's are chosen for serviceability - not requiring soldering skills.

But I don't know and would like to hear from a professional. FWIW the replacement part is extremely inexpensive in the Zero system - probably nothing special about it other than the rubber boot cover.
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Re: C14 Socket Connector Question?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2018, 02:53:27 AM »

My reading has always told me that a PROPERLY DONE crimped connection is superior to a soldered one, in terms of resistance AND reliability. A quick online search brought up several links, including this one:

http://avielelectronics.com/Downloads/Catalog/Ref-Crimp-vs-Solder.pdf

which says exactly that. There's a bit of disagreement online about this point, though. Perhaps the ultimate authority, NASA, says essentially the same thing:

https://workmanship.nasa.gov/lib/insp/2%20books/links/sections/201%20General%20Requirements.html
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Re: C14 Socket Connector Question?
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2018, 06:23:35 AM »

My reading has always told me that a PROPERLY DONE crimped connection is superior to a soldered one, in terms of resistance AND reliability.
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It's not the crimped end that I question but rather the other end (female disconnect) that I feel is inadequate.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: C14 Socket Connector Question?
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2018, 06:29:58 AM »

FWIW the replacement part is extremely inexpensive in the Zero system - probably nothing special about it other than the rubber boot cover.
The pack that I got on Amazon was ridiculously cheep (hope I didn't get what I paid for).
I'm expecting ( hoping ) to reuse the boot.
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Re: C14 Socket Connector Question?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2018, 09:26:45 AM »

It's not the crimped end that I question but rather the other end (female disconnect) that I feel is inadequate.
Sorry for the confusion.

I get that. But if you have a crimped connection, you have a crimp connector. NASA (and others) still prefer that way of making a connection. Take a look behind the instrument panel of a Cessna someday, it's a forest of those things. That's a high-vibe, critical environment that puts our bikes to shame.

Of course it's true that the female connector has to be intact and undamaged as well. The fingers have to have the correct amount of spring tension to provide the proper scrubbing as it's assembled to the lug, and maintain that airtight connection for the service life of the connector. Too much or too little spring tension, which you sometimes see on cheap or damaged crimp connectors, won't provide that reliability.
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