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JaimeC

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Re: This bodes well for the future
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2018, 01:40:04 AM »

Let's hope that they can convince recyclers that they can make a profit recycling lithium batteries.  Articles in my newspaper and on the radio and TV news lately report that recycling companies are tossing a lot of glass, plastic and paper products into the landfill because they are no longer clean enough for the Chinese to accept them for recycling.  And apparently, whatever recycling industry there is in California doesn't want the stuff, either. Plus, most of the glass and aluminum collection stations have closed over the last few years and that lets the State keep the bottle and can deposits that they collect. It sounds to me like the recycling industry is collapsing and the only winners will be the garbage companies that manage landfills.  :(
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Re: This bodes well for the future
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2018, 04:30:38 AM »

Recycling is not profitable except for glass and aluminum/metals so I'm not surprised the government and public would ultimately end up holding the bag.

One option is to make manufactures and retailers responsible for recycling whatever they make or sell, wherever practical. Folding the cost of recycling back into products' purchase price provides an incentive for innovations in recyclable design. Recycle fees levied at purchase time (for bottles, cans, tires, electronics, etc) seems too far removed from the manufacturer to support innovation and is inefficient.
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Re: This bodes well for the future
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2018, 09:27:26 PM »

Yeah....  We treat our planet like it's disposable too....  I think it's Sweden that collects recycling fees on all products up front....  Then they insure that all of their items are actually recycled....  Example:  Buy a new car....  You will be paying the full recycling cost up front....  Sounds like a smart and responsible plan to me....
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Re: This bodes well for the future
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2018, 04:28:18 AM »

This is another way in which the vehicles we're buying are manufacturer-subsidized for now.

I definitely support a regulation-based enforcement, but transnational politics right now are just about the worst I can imagine for that outlook. Maybe soon.
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Re: This bodes well for the future
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2018, 07:09:53 PM »

That would be because recycling is a scam in the first place, and is entirely money-driven.... even when it does not turn a profit.
Its something that is really hard to believe since we have all be fully indoctrinated in the concept and want to believe in it.

fun video if you have the time:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/j0Hd6UfA4MKo/
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Re: This bodes well for the future
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2018, 07:59:19 PM »

Speaking of recycling, things are tough in Germany this summer:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/23/germany-running-beer-bottles-heatwave-fuels-demand/
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Re: This bodes well for the future
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2018, 08:14:26 AM »

It will likely go the same way the Computer/IT industry has gone where the manufacturers are required to demonstrate a certain % responsibly recycled annually. In the IT industry for the major OEMs the requirements for the recycler they use are very stringent related to worker health & safety, the environment and downstream due diligence.  Recycling Lithium Ion batteries can most definitely be profitable for a recycler.
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