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[munchmeister]

The local dealer has some good prices on 2017 models, the DS 13.0 and the S ZF13.0. I'm anxious to test drive them but I have family visiting and, even more limiting, we just had about 4" of snow and the roads are icy. I think I understand the differences in these models, like tires, suspension, but I'm wondering about rider ergos. Are the both the same in that way? Upright riding position, etc? Any info appreciated!

[DPsSRnSD]

The DS seat is a little higher, and I think the handlebars are bent up so you can sit more upright.

[togo]

Handlebars and wheels are the main differences.  And corresponding kickstand length.

So, you can tuck more on an S/SR or also sit upright.  Seat height is higher on DS/DSR and range is lower (bigger tires and more upright position give you more wind resistance).

[anton]

DS(R) also has different suspension springs.

[Shadow]

The S and DS feel identical in posture to me without taking a measuring tape to things, other than the ride height and also the suspension dynamics through a turn (the S is noticeably more hands-off steady through a turn). Adding 2-in handlebar risers made a great improvement in ergo on my DSR.

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

There's a wiki article just on this, even if it needs improvement: https://zeromanual.com/index.php/Ergonomics

[Erasmo]

I'f your longer than usual the DS gives a better posture.