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Richard230

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Two new Indian electric motorcycles
« on: April 16, 2017, 04:43:37 AM »

Tork and Emflux.  Some of those performance and charging time specs seem a little exaggerated to me:
http://www.motorcycle.com/features/emflux/tork/electric+motorcycle.html
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Re: Two new Indian electric motorcycles
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 04:48:53 AM »

Haha....Your title confused me.....I thought Indian Motorcycle was going to make electric....Not motorcycles made in India.

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Re: Two new Indian electric motorcycles
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 06:27:01 AM »

Haha....Your title confused me.....I thought Indian Motorcycle was going to make electric....Not motorcycles made in India.

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Re: Two new Indian electric motorcycles
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 04:39:49 AM »

Tork and Emflux.  Some of those performance and charging time specs seem a little exaggerated to me:
http://www.motorcycle.com/features/emflux/tork/electric+motorcycle.html

Not sure about the EmFlux but the Tork T6X looks legit to me. According to its spec:

Battery life : 1,000 cycles

Battery capacity : 72 Ah

Tail lamp: LED

Turn signal lamp: LED

Head lamp: 12 V - 35 / 35 W

Voltage: 48 V

The battery pack looks like its a 3.4kWh (48v * 72Ah). And in india the standard outlet is 22v 12A, so 80% in 60 mins sounds legit to me. Emflux is a total different case (DC charging) so not sure there.
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Re: Two new Indian electric motorcycles
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2017, 04:24:04 AM »

Tork and Emflux.  Some of those performance and charging time specs seem a little exaggerated to me:
http://www.motorcycle.com/features/emflux/tork/electric+motorcycle.html

Not sure about the EmFlux but the Tork T6X looks legit to me. According to its spec:

Battery life : 1,000 cycles

Battery capacity : 72 Ah

Tail lamp: LED

Turn signal lamp: LED

Head lamp: 12 V - 35 / 35 W

Voltage: 48 V

The battery pack looks like its a 3.4kWh (48v * 72Ah). And in india the standard outlet is 22v 12A, so 80% in 60 mins sounds legit to me. Emflux is a total different case (DC charging) so not sure there.

It may be a legit bike as in a battery powered bicycle without peddles.  The rear tire is a 110 I believe.  The front is something like a 80.  For what it costs and it's rather whimsical motor, you'll be much happier with a decent battery bicycle. If memory serves me, the Stealth Bomber is only slightly less powerful and weighs less than half, maybe even a third of the weight.
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Re: Two new Indian electric motorcycles
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 05:49:28 AM »

You maybe right that the components and specs are not sport bikish, but the fact is that it does not have to be. Average commuting speeds in india hardly exceeds 60 kmph (~40mph). So having a bike with a lot of torque and power does not serve the purpose and is not relevant to most users (in most metro cities, traffic is really jam packed). Having a lighter motorcycle certainly makes it easier to weave through traffic. Motorcycle market in india is mostly commute oriented unlike in other countries where motorcycles are not used for commuting as much (unless areas with heavy traffic would make people use them for commuting).

Also the specs for Tork matches that of a standard 125cc motorcycle in india (for commuting this is what sells more within cities).

Considering all this a 80mm front and a 110mm rear tires are not too far off too. They're obviously chosen keeping these numbers in mind and to keep costs down.

Overall its directed towards a specific market segment and comparing it to a Zero or any other better spec'd motorcycle is like comparing apples and oranges.

Just my 2 cents  :)
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Re: Two new Indian electric motorcycles
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2017, 07:00:55 PM »

You maybe right that the components and specs are not sport bikish, but the fact is that it does not have to be. Average commuting speeds in india hardly exceeds 60 kmph (~40mph). So having a bike with a lot of torque and power does not serve the purpose and is not relevant to most users (in most metro cities, traffic is really jam packed). Having a lighter motorcycle certainly makes it easier to weave through traffic. Motorcycle market in india is mostly commute oriented unlike in other countries where motorcycles are not used for commuting as much (unless areas with heavy traffic would make people use them for commuting).

Also the specs for Tork matches that of a standard 125cc motorcycle in india (for commuting this is what sells more within cities).

Considering all this a 80mm front and a 110mm rear tires are not too far off too. They're obviously chosen keeping these numbers in mind and to keep costs down.

Overall its directed towards a specific market segment and comparing it to a Zero or any other better spec'd motorcycle is like comparing apples and oranges.

Just my 2 cents  :)

I'm comparing it to a high end battery powered bicycle, not a Zero, since the price points are much closer to to it.  Everything you just described about travel in India indicates that your money would be far better spent on a Stealh Bomber or something similar.  Similar prices, similar sized motor, similar top speed, and similar range, except the Stealth Bomber or just about any other similar bike weighs HALF the amount of Tork and with 10x better suspension for rough roads.
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