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Mike Werner

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Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« on: September 08, 2015, 08:14:28 PM »

Some interesting statistics. For the first 8 months, in France a total of 104173 motorcycles were sold. Of those, 362 were electric.
Of these, 277 were BMW C-Evolution, 23 Zero and 8 Brammo.

That's a very small drop in a big ICE ocean.

http://www.csiam-fr.org/documents/20150908_3.pdf

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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2015, 08:28:39 PM »

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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2015, 08:30:13 PM »

I really wish we could get that sort of detail about U.S. motorcycle sales.  I keep getting the impression that the majority of Zero sales are from fleet purchases and that individual sales through dealers are pretty minor in the U.S. motorcycle market. It appears that anyone that really knows how the EV market is doing is keeping it to themselves.  However, I don't think that current cheap gas prices, the shaky world-wide economy, the relatively high initial cost of electrics and the declining interest in government support of electric vehicles are going to do anything to increase sales in the near future.  It is a market that I personally wouldn't want to invest in if I didn't have the money, liked the quiet running and the feel of electric propulsion, had a lot of short trips to do most days and wanted to do a little bit to reduce air pollution.

I might add that I continue to be amazed how many discussions there are on other forums from motorcycle owners who want louder mufflers with no catalytic converts and want to know how to remove as much pollution control equipment as possible from their stock motorcycles.  The vast majority of the motorcycle market just doesn't seem to appreciate the advantages of electric vehicles.  :(
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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2015, 08:41:34 PM »

I really wish we could get that sort of detail about U.S. motorcycle sales.  I keep getting the impression that the majority of Zero sales are from fleet purchases and that individual sales through dealers are pretty minor in the U.S. motorcycle market. It appears that anyone that really knows how the EV market is doing is keeping it to themselves.  However, I don't think that current cheap gas prices, the shaky world-wide economy, the relatively high initial cost of electrics and the declining interest in government support of electric vehicles are going to do anything to increase sales in the near future.  It is a market that I personally wouldn't want to invest in if I didn't have the money, liked the quiet running and the feel of electric propulsion, had a lot of short trips to do most days and wanted to do a little bit to reduce air pollution.

I might add that I continue to be amazed how many discussions there are on other forums from motorcycle owners who want louder mufflers with no catalytic converts and want to know how to remove as much pollution control equipment as possible from their stock motorcycles.  The vast majority of the motorcycle market just doesn't seem to appreciate the advantages of electric vehicles.  :(

I guess it's one advantage living in a part of the world where they have regulations and paperwork. Guess it was one thing Napoleon did that marked the world....

I also am amazed at other riders. In front of my house, it looks like every Harley in France comes to ride, all with loud pipes and all making sure their engine is still running. Guess eventually they'll die down, when oil goes over the 200$ per barrel. It will happen, just when?

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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2015, 03:15:02 PM »

I've been looking for this information for some time, thanks ! Are you in Paris ?

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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2015, 03:16:52 PM »

What is the ZF model ??
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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2015, 01:23:00 PM »

Wow only 2 FX in France and one of them is mine...   Scary...









Yes what is ZF?  stands for Zero Fx?  In this case I feel less alone

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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2015, 01:35:26 PM »

On the other hand, you own half of al the FX-es, how awesome is that :P
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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2015, 01:20:40 AM »

ZF stands for Zero Force. Its not a bike model, but the name Zero gave to their motor design. The FX has a ZF75-5 motor (small), S and DS are ZF75-7 and SR is ZF75-7R.
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Re: Electric motorcycles sales in France - first 8 months
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 01:38:33 AM »

Yes what is ZF?  stands for Zero Fx?  In this case I feel less alone

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I guess ZF is either a mis-classified Zero or it is a Zero SR.
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