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Richard230

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An atomic battery?
« on: September 25, 2014, 03:45:15 AM »
I am not ready for this.  Not if it is powered by Strontium-90:

http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/electric-motorcycle-pffff-try-nuclear-powered.htm
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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2014, 03:54:21 AM »
"The principle is that the nuclear radiation splits the water atoms which results in energy. "

I'm going to call BS. To my knowledge, neither alpha, beta OR gamma rays can split water molecules (not atoms), and if they did, it wouldn't "result in energy". (You also wouldn't want beta or gamma rays ANYWHERE near your gonads.) MAYBE you could separate the hydrogen and oxygen atoms, and then run the hydrogen through a fuel cell, but we still have the problem of the "nuclear radiation" splitting the water in the first place.

It's baloney.
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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2014, 04:18:48 AM »
Here is the Abstract from the paper published in Nature Magazine:

http://www.nature.com/srep/2014/140611/srep05249/full/srep05249.html

"The field of conventional energy conversion using radioisotopes has almost exclusively focused on solid-state materials. Herein, we demonstrate that liquids can be an excellent media for effective energy conversion from radioisotopes. We also show that free radicals in liquid, which are continuously generated by beta radiation, can be utilized for electrical energy generation. Under beta radiation, surface plasmon obtained by the metallic nanoporous structures on TiO2 enhanced the radiolytic conversion via the efficient energy transfer between plasmons and free radicals. This work introduces a new route for the development of next-generation power sources."
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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 07:03:20 AM »
Damn it !

I forgot my Strontium-90 reserve  for going back to the future !! :o

With winter coming i doubt i 'll have a chance to catch a 1.21GW strike !!!... automn is here alerady !

No luck No strike ! :P

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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2014, 03:51:41 PM »
Well..I wouldn't call it an atomic battery...The energy is simply stored by splitting water molecules. For what (imaginary) batteries are concerned, it doesn't really matter that this is achieved with beta radiation.
Still, it would be pretty cool filling up your motorcycle with (ionized) water at the local nuclear power plant. :)
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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2014, 05:39:43 PM »
I'm fine with the Beta radiation near my gonads for this.

I could call my kids after the first few rides to make sure they are alright - but I'll think they will stay fine.

The thorium ore in my nightstand's Spinthariscope makes neat flashes at night. (I'm sure it makes neat flashes all the time, I can just only see them at night)

"Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too."
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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2015, 02:53:05 PM »
http://www.ganino.com/nuclear_pacemakers]http://www.ganino.com/nuclear_pacemakers]http://www.ganino.com/nuclear_pacemakers



I need a few thousand of these to make the bike run for a few years, 80 years, maybe.. :o

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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2015, 09:27:26 PM »
Good luck recycling your thousands of pacemaker nuclear batteries when it comes time to replace them, Cam.   ;)
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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2015, 04:31:42 AM »
Hey Richard,

No Problemo.  I will just deal with it the "professional way" the way most of the rest the Nuclear Industry deals with it... I will dump them at sea or bury them in my backyard... Problem solved  ::)  lol....

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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2015, 04:35:26 AM »
Quote from: Camresearch on February 08, 2015, 04:31:42 AM
Hey Richard,

No Problemo.  I will just deal with it the "professional way" the way most of the rest the Nuclear Industry deals with it... I will dump them at sea or bury them in my backyard... Problem solved  ::)  lol....

Cam  8)

There is more than a grain of truth in that statement.   ::)
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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2015, 05:11:27 AM »
That's ok... I already say "ATOMIC BATTERIES TO POWER" as I leave the batcave garage... doesn't everybody?
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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2015, 05:17:33 AM »
Quote from: CrashCash on February 08, 2015, 05:11:27 AM
That's ok... I already say "ATOMIC BATTERIES TO POWER" as I leave the batcave garage... doesn't everybody?

That's right!  Batman used atomic batteries and they didn't affect him at all  :-\  so it's all good  ;D

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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2015, 05:20:34 AM »


I rest my case... A couple of regular individuals, out for a Sunday drive...  :o

If it is good enough for batman....

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Re: An atomic battery?
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 10:57:17 PM »
Pacemaker atomic batteries to power the bms...?
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