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MichaelJohn

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Old muscle cars stink
« on: February 11, 2015, 12:29:07 PM »

First a little background. Last night I went out to visit my 89 year-old mother-in-law who lives nearby in a rest home. She is a Holocaust survivor, tough as nails, who has gone through more than most of us could ever imagine. She lost her parents, grand parents and her entire village to the Nazis, escaped from a concentration camp and fought with the partisans in the forest - all while in her teens. Then she came to the U.S. without knowing a word of English and worked her way through UC Berkeley where she got two graduate degrees. I have huge respect for her and I try to see her as often as I can as she is sadly fading out. Visiting her is also a great reason to get out on the Zero so it is really win win. This brings me to the point of the story. On the way to see her last night I got in a right turn lane behind a '65 Chevy Malibu with a rumbling V8. I appreciate old muscle cars, they are from my era - my first car was a '65 Mustang with a 289 V8 and I loved that car. I was admiring the Chevy when after about 30 seconds I realized that I was having trouble breathing. His lovely twin pipes were filling my lungs with carbureted untreated hydrocarbons. I don't know about other states, but here in California older vehicles are exempt from smog regulations. There was no way around the Chevy as I was trapped by a car behind and cars on the left that were packed too tightly for me to filter through and the Chevy was too close to the curb on the right for me to get by. After another minute or so (it is a very long duration light) I was getting really nauseated and woozy and I was extremely light-headed. I began to panic and  just as I was ready to hop the curb on the right to get up on the sidewalk the light changed and the Chevy blasted off giving me one more dose of poison. I let him get far ahead of me, opened my visor and gratefully breathed in some nice cool fresh air. I know that modern cars are way cleaner now but nonetheless my nasty exhaust experience has given me a new take on the Zero. When people ask me why I ride an electric motorcycle I always say that it's for the performance and I downplay the "green" factor. From now on I will also say that it's damn nice to have a vehicle that doesn't foul the air behind it.
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Re: Old muscle cars stink
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2015, 09:41:15 PM »

I now wonder what it was like to drive behind my first car, a 1960 DKW Junior, with its 3-cylinder, two stroke engine, where I had to pour a pint of Chevron outboard motor oil into every 5 gallons of gas upon refueling every hundred miles or so. I'll bet it was smoky and stinky.  Maybe that is the reason that I got my first and only speeding ticket while driving a car?  The cop behind me was riding a motorcycle.   ::)

Old family photo of me and my DKW attached.
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Re: Old muscle cars stink
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2015, 09:56:24 PM »

I can't throw stones, I used to ride an RZ-350. You could follow my blue smoke trail for miles until you heard the screaming from the pipes. Incredibly obnoxious.
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Re: Old muscle cars stink
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2015, 10:04:19 PM »

Some people just don't care about their hotrods let them burn oil etc :(



It wasn't my first car but I have to agree I sure do love a 1965 mustang

I really miss this thing, need to find another hotrod




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Re: Old muscle cars stink
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2015, 01:51:44 AM »

Some people just don't care about their hotrods cars, let them burn oil etc :(

Man, I can't tell you the number of cars I see go by with valves tapping hard enough to hear a block away, squealing belts, squealing (metal-on-metal) brakes, broken wipers, non-working tail and/or brake lights, bald tires, one wheel going in a different direction than the other 3....

OTOH, I drive a bike because I couldn't get my Camaro repaired here in Orlando, so I understand.
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Re: Old muscle cars stink
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2015, 02:03:29 AM »

Smokiest vehicle I ever owned (since I never owned a 2-stroke) was my 1981 Kawasaki KZ550. It didn't smoke even a tiny bit until I put some Moriwaki racing pistons in it to go along with their racing cams. They specified a ridiculous amount of cylinder wall clearance (I suppose trying to stave off seizing under racing conditions) and were a two-ring design, and I don't think the oil ring that they had even tried.
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Re: Old muscle cars stink
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2015, 02:36:34 AM »

Some people just don't care about their hotrods cars, let them burn oil etc :(

Man, I can't tell you the number of cars I see go by with valves tapping hard enough to hear a block away, squealing belts, squealing (metal-on-metal) brakes, broken wipers, non-working tail and/or brake lights, bald tires, one wheel going in a different direction than the other 3....

OTOH, I drive a bike because I couldn't get my Camaro repaired here in Orlando, so I understand.


And to think every time I hear a weird noise coming from my car or bike I'm pulling over as soon as I can, not gonna be me loosing a wheel while moving.

It's amazing what people can put their car through, even if I beat the car I at least change the oil and make sure it doesn't leak.
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Re: Old muscle cars stink
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2015, 03:44:54 AM »

And to think every time I hear a weird noise coming from my car or bike I'm pulling over as soon as I can, not gonna be me loosing a wheel while moving.
Well, I had a problem with my Camaro randomly locking up the brakes. It was a bad ABS wheel sensor according to the OBD-II. I argued with the mechanic at the dealership who insisted he wouldn't replace it. I didn't talk to his manager because I didn't know how to handle these things. It spun out and ate a concrete barrier on the way home because I'd forgotten to pull the ABS relay again.

Oh well. Good riddance.

There's also my roommate's Accord where they cost him about $4K swapping electrical stuff randomly until they discovered a bad $2 relay.
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Re: Old muscle cars stink
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2015, 10:35:35 PM »

All it would take is a law that forces car and bike exhaust to be output directly in the face of the driver/rider, not way far behind them where they don't feel the effects of the pollution and noise. The Harley guys would quickly realize how annoying and unhealthy their bikes are [emoji2]
I know that such a law would never pass, but extreme measures are sometimes necessary for average Joe to wake up to reality.
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